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Post by sandy on Jun 2, 2020 14:35:15 GMT
I think Terry's voice for harmonies with Allan was really beautiful, a fabulous blend.I did also buy his solo album and singles at the time(ok.....I had a huge teenage crush on him😉), and, at that time, his material wasn't that out of place with soft easy listening type of male singer songwriter stuff.( Bread, Lobo, etc.) Looking back from the present time, it is pleasant,but hardly groundbreaking, although I did enjoy his album with James Griffin. His solo voice wasn't strong, but was easy to listen to. I agree, it was never a lead singer of a band voice, though he tried to step up to the mark in the Rikfors years, as best he could. ...But his recent concerts on YouTube, even compared to 5 years ago..... I'm afraid some of them are really painful to listen to😕So it makes me really angry that he seems to think he's in a position to snipe at others. Hall of Fame was unfortunate in it's lack of clarity in rehearsals,as far as I can see..a real unintentional screw up, ending in him feeling humiliated ( or humiliating himself by his rash decision to storm the stage and then tell terrible ' jokes'!) in front of his small but cultish following out there. So that's hard to live down. Then Allan makes a successful and critically well received comeback album,and is in the news again. And then, the 'fake Hollies' plan a big tour of the States, on his perceived ' home patch' ,stealing all his thunder about him being the " Legendary Terry Sylvester of the Hollies",and "singer of Long Cool Woman"( !!!!!!because he toured it..), which he has piggy-backed on since he moved there! I think he must feel small and a bit insignificant maybe right now. Then his cult followers on Twitter, some of whom just follow anyone famous they can make contact with, stoke his ego by being just as vitriolic and hateful in their language and posts, just to stay on his good side and not get blocked! They send him all the posts which it's obvious are going to wind him up, about the Hollies new or old....and it gets pretty personal.....It's really sad to see. Sad,sad...I too wish he could take a chance to re imagine or save his legacy right now....but his voice is hardly there anyway.I also would wish, on a human level ,that the guy can find some peace soon, before it becomes a pitiful tradgedy.He is most definitely not the cheeky Scouser he still professes to be.😣
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Post by stuball on Jun 2, 2020 15:07:27 GMT
Well. Something shut Terry up. Hasn't tweeted in two days. I'd like to think Terry has just discovered this site, and is busily engrossed in reading all these strongly-held opinions(both pro and con) about himself. I can't think of anywhere (apart of course, from his own syncophantic Twitter site) where his name comes up so much as here! If so, it'll serve to keep him from twittering such rubbish. And that's a plus for everyone, Terry included.
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 2, 2020 15:23:46 GMT
Well. Something shut Terry up. Hasn't tweeted in two days. I'd like to think Terry has just discovered this site, and is busily engrossed in reading all these strongly-held opinions(both pro and con) about himself. I can't think of anywhere (apart of course, from his own syncophantic Twitter site) where his name comes up so much as here! If so, it'll serve to keep him from twittering such rubbish. And that's a plus for everyone, Terry included. Or he was chastened by someone who told him about Jeni's brother. I do wonder about his drinking...
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 2, 2020 17:12:46 GMT
Okay he's back...but sticking to his take on US politics so far...
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Post by JamesT on Jun 6, 2020 8:01:59 GMT
Maybe Terry should Caerphilly think about what he 'Tweets' as we're Edamed well sick of his same old fodder!
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Post by johnt on Jun 6, 2020 8:16:47 GMT
Maybe Terry should Caerphilly think about what he 'Tweets' as we're Edamed well sick of his same old fodder! .....or he'll become a Sardo (I had to google that one!)
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 6, 2020 14:28:00 GMT
Oh. My. He must have found this downturn in his career somewhat a pain in the Asiago. (I'll see myself out...)
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Post by sandy on Jun 7, 2020 8:54:06 GMT
Oh. My. He must have found this downturn in his career somewhat a pain in the Asiago. (I'll see myself out...) View AttachmentI think he did this only for maybe a couple of years if that, while working out how to get back into the music world? I knew a friend of his who invited a couple of us to a private birthday bash, around 1987,where Terry,Berni, and a couple of extras played a small gig.It was great. Was introduced to Terry, and he said to pop by with anything I wanted signing, so I went to his office, which I passed every day in my work.He was charming, funny, easy to chat to. I had a friend in Germany ( bear with me!?!?..) who had a friend (!?!?) who, having heard about it, wanted to work with Terry, and asked for his number.So I checked with Terry first( good girl that I am😉),then passed on the number. I think that was probably Ulli, who went on to do stuff with Terry in Germany. So,then he must have moved to the States after that? ....sorry for long- winded story!!!😅
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 9:16:47 GMT
He's not the only former big pop star who went back to a "proper" job of course. Brian Poole famously worked in the family butchers, while Tremeloes drummer Dave Munden worked as a courier for a cruise ship casino, albeit just for a few months! There's probably 100s of similar examples out there.
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Post by thejanitor on Jun 7, 2020 9:17:14 GMT
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Post by gee on Jun 7, 2020 10:29:52 GMT
I do have a photo of Bernie playing bass with Terry at what looks like a working man's club
A lady friend of mine had a girl friend who got to know Terry a bit when he was in The Hollies - then they used the same petrol station in the London area and had quick chats while filling up their cars - Terry told her he was working as a estate agent partly then to help pay for his son's schooling but told her that he hoped to be getting back into music soon
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Post by sandy on Jun 7, 2020 11:19:58 GMT
Yes, that was the one, Bob Leader's birthday at the hockey club. Was a good night. I probably have the set somewhere. 😉The tape you mentioned may even have been mine😅 I'm in process of converting some stuff to MP3, so when I have, can post a link? It's great- Terry on good form👌😊....if that's allowed?
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 7, 2020 14:10:06 GMT
He's not the only former big pop star who went back to a "proper" job of course. Brian Poole famously worked in the family butchers, while Tremeloes drummer Dave Munden worked as a courier for a cruise ship casino, albeit just for a few months! There's probably 100s of similar examples out there. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. A person's gotta eat!
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Post by Malc on Jun 7, 2020 17:19:33 GMT
I wrote a book a while back - the biography of 60s US band The Association - and whilst discussing their respective careers with the members both Jim Yester and Jules Alexander both professed to taking breaks from the music during leaner times. Jules worked at carpentry and ran a tree-trimming business, whilst Jim, in his own words, "registered with a temp agency and was working for $5.00 an hour, loading and unloading semi trucks, digging ditches for restaurant construction, working at a Christian CD distribution center, repackaging CDs, running a wood lathe for a furniture factory making table legs…" - and this was the guy that sang lead vocals on "Along Comes Mary" and arranged the boing boings on "Cherish" ! Irrelevant to the H's I know but...
Edit: and now, 'x' amount of years later, they are the only two originals left touring in the band...
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Post by cameron on Jun 7, 2020 20:24:49 GMT
You forget how pop stars are no different from the rest of us really and have to make ends meet. In some ways, it's worse for them as they attain a lifestyle at their career peak, and have to sustain it afterwards. The Hollies have always stuck me as extremely humble, apart from Allan and Tony, they all live in fairly normal houses and drive normal cars - though Allan confessed to driving a Nissan Primera in one of the early 1990s tour guides; the height of uncool! lol.
It's also not talked about how much the artist gets screwed over by the record company. Even artists who've had enormous worldwide hits don't get much from them at all if they only sang/performed on them. But the songs wouldn't have been a hit if they didn't! I've never understood why the performer gets so comparatively short changed, because some performers can make a song a hit, and others make the same song unlistenable. The Hollies have a pretty good deal amongst themselves and they own their own masters for the most part, but they are almost unique among 1960s groups for doing that. There's been more groups than you can count who've all ended up on the 'oldies' circuit doing gigs in not great conditions for not massive amounts of money. One group notorious for this was Slade. Apparently Noddy Holder would wait until they were due on stage and then demand an extra few thousand pounds cash right before they went on, or they'd go home. Allegedly he was so bad for it that that's one of the main reasons he was nudged out of the group because they were struggling to get bookings as word got around.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 21:24:58 GMT
Allegedly he was so bad for it that that's one of the main reasons he was nudged out of the group because they were struggling to get bookings as word got around. Not sure where you got that from. Noddy was getting tired of touring by 1983, and it was his decision to stop in 1984. After that they increasingly had trouble getting him into the studio, and in 1992 he quit, as other members (Dave and Don) were keen to get back on the road. So, if there was any nudging, it was only due to Noddy's lack of interest. Don briefly ran a pub, before getting back with Dave as Slade II.
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 7, 2020 21:37:21 GMT
My intent in posting the screencap of the tweet wasn't to put Terry down at all. As far as I'm concerned, respect. The Dude drove a taxi in between gigs when I first met him. *shrug*
However my first thought was how Terry's ego handled it and whether that's another thing on his list of grievances, especially considering 1980 is like yesterday for him at the moment.
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Post by allanangel on Jun 9, 2020 2:16:30 GMT
I think he did this only for maybe a couple of years if that, while working out how to get back into the music world? I knew a friend of his who invited a couple of us to a private birthday bash, around 1987,where Terry,Berni, and a couple of extras played a small gig.It was great. Was introduced to Terry, and he said to pop by with anything I wanted signing, so I went to his office, which I passed every day in my work.He was charming, funny, easy to chat to. I had a friend in Germany ( bear with me!?!?..) who had a friend (!?!?) who, having heard about it, wanted to work with Terry, and asked for his number.So I checked with Terry first( good girl that I am😉),then passed on the number. I think that was probably Ulli, who went on to do stuff with Terry in Germany. So,then he must have moved to the States after that? ....sorry for long- winded story!!!😅 Awesome! You have the best stories. I am so envious.
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 9, 2020 15:43:54 GMT
I think he did this only for maybe a couple of years if that, while working out how to get back into the music world? I knew a friend of his who invited a couple of us to a private birthday bash, around 1987,where Terry,Berni, and a couple of extras played a small gig.It was great. Was introduced to Terry, and he said to pop by with anything I wanted signing, so I went to his office, which I passed every day in my work.He was charming, funny, easy to chat to. I had a friend in Germany ( bear with me!?!?..) who had a friend (!?!?) who, having heard about it, wanted to work with Terry, and asked for his number.So I checked with Terry first( good girl that I am😉),then passed on the number. I think that was probably Ulli, who went on to do stuff with Terry in Germany. So,then he must have moved to the States after that? ....sorry for long- winded story!!!😅 Awesome! You have the best stories. I am so envious. I have absolutely no stories, so I live vicariously through Sandy.
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 10, 2020 18:05:38 GMT
I wrote a book a while back - the biography of 60s US band The Association - and whilst discussing their respective careers with the members both Jim Yester and Jules Alexander both professed to taking breaks from the music during leaner times. Jules worked at carpentry and ran a tree-trimming business, whilst Jim, in his own words, "registered with a temp agency and was working for $5.00 an hour, loading and unloading semi trucks, digging ditches for restaurant construction, working at a Christian CD distribution center, repackaging CDs, running a wood lathe for a furniture factory making table legs…" - and this was the guy that sang lead vocals on "Along Comes Mary" and arranged the boing boings on "Cherish" ! Irrelevant to the H's I know but... Edit: and now, 'x' amount of years later, they are the only two originals left touring in the band... Hey...think I found you on Twitter today! If you're the person writing a new book...
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Jun 26, 2020 14:26:25 GMT
Theory: It's gotta be booze. Liverpool won and after 20 days of peace and quiet, he's back ranting on Twitter again.
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Post by baz on Jun 26, 2020 15:36:47 GMT
Theory: It's gotta be booze. Liverpool won and after 20 days of peace and quiet, he's back ranting on Twitter again. Terry hangs himself with his latest sneer : I’ve done shows with groups / bands that a manager ownes the name, nobody in the acts were born when they had the hits, fake, fake, fake, also illegal Correction, Terry : I DO shows with groups / bands...He always keeps harping on about his mate Joey Molland and let's just say nobody else connected with the original Badfinger line ups endorses Molland's exploitation of the Badfinger name. But Terry is quite happy to accept gigs and effectively endorse shows full of these "fake" acts. Hmmm. Yes, beer in copious amounts does cause deranged states of irrationality.
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Post by dirtyfaz on Jun 26, 2020 22:52:56 GMT
Haven't some of Badfinger passed so I guess they can't endorse Molland
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Post by eric on Jun 27, 2020 1:20:53 GMT
Thankfully Tony and Bobby control The Hollies, unlike the Little River Band, whose founding members, songwriters and principal singers lost control of their band name and had to tour as Birtles, Shorrock and Goble.
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Post by gee on Jun 27, 2020 16:55:49 GMT
while some early and later members survive of the main quartet of Badfinger only Joey Molland survives with Pete Ham and Tom Evans sadly having taken their own lives in 1975 and 1983 respectively while drummer Mike Gibbins passed away a few years ago
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