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Post by johnt on Feb 16, 2017 8:33:52 GMT
Just seen this:
HOLLIES
HEAD OUT OF DREAMS
6 CD SET
RELEASE DATE DUE: 17TH MARCH 2017
CAT NO: 0190295892333
WARNER MUSIC DISTRIBUTION
TRACK LIST:
With a title inspired by the opening line of The Hollies’ track ‘I’m Down’ this boxset ‘Head Out Of Dreams’ includes 6CDs filled with rarities, previously unreleased material and remastered B sides. This 6CD set also features a 24 page booklet, with liner notes by long-time fan Uli Twelker that provides a meaningful insight into The Hollies’ musical path.
‘Head Out Of Dreams’ follows The Hollies’ journey from 1973 to 1988, seeing Allan Clarke returning to be part of the band, bringing the band back to achieving chart positions all over the world with ‘The Day That Curly Billy Shot Down Crazy Sam McGee’. As such, the boxset is fittingly subtitled ‘The Complete Hollies August 1973 – May 1988’.
This 6CD set covers the hit single ‘The Air That I Breathe’ along with tracks such as ‘Just One Look’ (‘83 Version) and ‘I’m Down’ which are alongside ‘You’re All Woman’ and ‘You Gave Me Strength’, both of which are previously unissued on official CD anywhere.
Disc One
1. “The Day That Curly Billy Shot Down Crazy Sam McGee”
2. “Mexico Gold”
3. “Out on The Road”
4. “Born A Man”
5. “Pick Up The Pieces Again”
6. “It’s A Shame, It’s A Game”
7. “Transatlantic Westbound Jet”
8. “Don’t Let Me Down”
9. “Falling Calling”
10. “Tip of The Iceberg”
11. “Burn Fire Burn”
12. “Rubber Lucy”
13. “The Air That I Breathe”
14. “Down On The Run”
15. “No More Riders”
16. “Love Makes The World Go Round”
17. “Give Me Time”
18. “Lonely Hobo Lullaby”
19. “Son Of A Rotten Gambler”
20. “Layin’ To The Music”
Disc Two
1. “4th Of July Asbury Park (Sandy)”
2. “Come Down To The Shore”
3. “Hello Lady Goodbye”
4. “You Gave Me Life (With That Look In Your Eyes)”
5. “Lucy”
6. “Look Out Johnny (There’s A Monkey On Your Back)”
7. “Second Hand Hang-Ups”
8. “Another Night”
9. “Time Machine Jive”
10. “I’m Down”
11. “Stranger”
12. “Narida”
13. “My Island”
14. “Samuel”
15. “Sweet Country Calling”
16. “Crocodile Woman (She Bites)”
17. “Star”
18. “Love Is The Thing”
19. “I Won’t Move Over”
20. “There’s Always Goodbye”
Disc Three
1. “Write On”
2. “Boulder To Birmingham”
3. “Here in My Dreams”
4. “Daddy Don’t Mind”
5. “My Love”
6. “Russian Roulette”
7. “Corrine”
8. “C’mon”
9. “Be With You”
10. “Lady of The Night”
11. “Louise”
12. “48 Hour Parole”
13. “Thanks For The Memories”
14. “Wiggle That Wotsit”
15. “Draggin’ My Heels”
16. “Hello To Romance”
17. “Let It Pour”
18. “Burn Out”
19. “Amnesty”
20. “Crossfire”
Disc Four
1. “Caracas”
2. “What Am I Gonna Do”
3. “Feet on The Ground”
4. “Writing On The Wall”
5. “Clown Service”
6. “When I’m Yours”
7. “Lovin’ You Ain’t Easy”
8. “Satellite Three”
9. “Something To Live For”
10. “Sanctuary”
11. “Maybe It’s Dawn”
12. “Song of The Sun”
13. “Stormy Waters”
14. “Boys In The Band”
15. “It’s In Every One Of Us”
16. “Say It Ain’t So Jo”
17. “Harlequin”
18. “Can’t Lie No More”
Disc Five
1. “Soldier’s Song”
2. “If The Lights Go Out” (First Version)
3. “Peggy Sue”
4. “Wishing”
5. “Love’s Made A Fool of You”
6. “Take Your Time”
7. “Heartbeat”
8. “Tell Me How”
9. “Think It Over”
10. “Maybe Baby”
11. “Midnight Shift”
12. “I’m Gonna Love You Too”
13. “Peggy Sue Got Married”
14. “What To Do”
15. “That’ll Be The Day”
16. “It Doesn’t Matter Anymore”
17. “Everyday”
18. “Carrie”
19. “Driver”
20. “Take My Love And Run” (First Version)
21. “Musical Pictures”
22. “Let Her Go Down”
Disc Six
1. “Casualty”
2. “Take My Love And Run”
3. “Say You’ll Be Mine”
4. “Something Ain’t Right”
5. “If The Lights Go Out”
6. “Stop! In The Name of Love”
7. “I Got What I Want”
8. “Just One Look”
9. “Someone Else’s Eyes”
10. “Having A Good Time”
11. “You’re All Woman”
12. “You Gave Me Strength”
13. “Laughter Turns To Tears”
14. “Too Many Hearts Get Broken”
15. “This Is It”
16. “Reunion Of The Heart”
17. “Stand By Me”
18. “For What It’s Worth, I’m Sorry”
19. “Shine Silently”
20. “Your Eyes”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 10:00:09 GMT
I wonder why they've used 1988 as a cut-off point? Would make more sense to wrap up the complete later Clarke years.
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Post by JamesT on Feb 16, 2017 17:12:27 GMT
...and where's 'Live Hits'?
I hope everything not on the individual album releases of about a decade ago or the 'Long Road Home' box set has been remastered - I was listening to 'A Crazy Steal' (from the 'Four More Hollies Originals' set of 21 years ago) and boy, it could be doing with some sonic cleaning.
Overall, I will definitely buy it, but again, rather uninspired. Now, coupling 'Live Hits' with some other live material from the 70s/80s would make a nice follow up!
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on Feb 16, 2017 17:53:45 GMT
Thanks for the info..................now ordered.....!!
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Post by Stranger on Feb 16, 2017 18:04:11 GMT
Unexpected! Was hoping for Is It True to be included.
I guess the other two sets sold reasonably well.
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Post by gee on Feb 16, 2017 19:12:39 GMT
cheer up - you nearly got a very naff version of 'Laughter Turns To Tears' included !
it was always going to be studio tracks only - hence no 'Live Hits'
the cut off point at 1988 is apparently down to running time factors
- I pushed to get at least 'Find Me A Family' and the final Clarke UK chart hit 'The Woman I Love' included but apparently they could not go on as it would break the 'complete studio recordings' aspect !
at least 'Crossfire', and a few latter tracks get a belated UK release on Compact Disc at last, the final CD after 'What Goes Around...' has some fine latter era songs such as 'Laughter...', 'Shine Silently' (7 inch single version), 'Stand By Me' and 'Your Eyes'
'You Gave Me Strength', 'You're All Woman', 'For What it's Worth (I'm Sorry)' appear 'officially' on CD in the UK for the first time too
hopefully a 'post Sylvester' complete final Clarke era CD going from 1981 to 1993 can be compiled in the future...
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Post by Stranger on Feb 16, 2017 21:21:01 GMT
No I Don't Understand You?
Fine track.
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Post by cameron on Feb 17, 2017 9:42:21 GMT
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Post by cameron on Feb 17, 2017 9:50:04 GMT
Perhaps not full of the rarities that we'd hoped, but it's what was thoroughly expected. It is good that they extended right up to 1988, though that doesn't leave any scope for the 1989-1993, 2003-2010 recordings being issued as a set. Unless they fill it out with live recordings.
An interesting point that Gee makes about it being just for studio recordings. The title of the set is "The Complete Hollies", so one would assume this included live recordings, as the Clarke, Hicks & Nash Years set did. Though I can see by the tracklisting that that they are obviously pushed for space.
As far as I can see, the only "new" tracks are "You Gave Me Strength", "Your Eyes" and "You're All Woman" but only new in the respect that I don't think they've yet been issued on CD. Though I wouldn't say that either of those tracks are the Hollies' finest moments though.
For me, I'm looking forward to the set and I have pre-ordered it. It will be good to get all the later 70s albums on CD as I've never managed to get anything past "Another Night" as they all went out of print years ago and I think in the case of "A Crazy Steal" and "5317704" they haven't yet officially been released on CD?
I love how the Hollies never announce anything until a month or so before it's due so that we don't have long to wait!
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Post by gee on Feb 17, 2017 13:04:59 GMT
Besides the 'Four Hollies Originals' and 'Four More...' boxes of some years ago - now quite expensive if they turn up - no those latter albums were never given a proper CD release in the UK individually
Magic Records did put them out in France but the sound was questionable
'Crossfire' is a non CD track in the UK too
They did of course include some live 1968 tracks on 'Clarke, Hicks, Nash Years' box set but besides that the remit is officially released studio tracks
'I Don't Understand You' from 1981 slipped out on that German 'Rock in Beat' first issue of 'What Goes Around...' as a bonus track however they took action to delete it and apparently won't allow it's inclusion as it's deemed to be a 'working version' not a finished track,
Hopefully if this set sells well enough maybe EMI/Warners might then want to delve deeper for future releases provided they believe it's a viable concern...we can only wait and see
However the fact they considered doing this third CD set is encouraging
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Post by gee on Feb 17, 2017 13:19:36 GMT
A final Clarke era set would of course replicate the last ten tracks included here on CD six - however there would also be room for;
Hard To Forget - unissued track
Nothing Else But Love - non UK track
Find Me A Family
No Rules
Baby Come Back
Hillsborough
Purple Rain - studio version (remixed less echo on Clarke's vocal)
Naomi
Two Shadows
The Woman I Love
Peggy Sue Got Married - (with Buddy Holly & Graham Nash)
making 21 studio tracks from 1985-1993 plus these 'live' tracks;
Write On - 1982 (on Polydor '20 Years' CD)
Blowin' in The Wind - 1982 ( " " ")
Another Night - 1991 (on German EMI 'Air That I Breathe' CD single)
Purple Rain - live at Harrogate
These could be added as 'bonus' live tracks, that's at least 25 tracks for any final CD which could be part of a 2CD set along with 'Hollies Live Hits' album ?
I'm NOT including 'He Ain't Heavy' with the cast of 'Coronation Street' in my suggested listing....no way !!
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Post by Gralto on Feb 17, 2017 14:48:50 GMT
 Here's a sneak peak at what Disc One looks like... Question - if the publicity mentions "unreleased tracks" as per JohnT's post, where (and what) are they? I can't see anything on the listing supplied. For those who may not have heard some of The H's tracks of the mid-late 1980s, perhaps the biggest surprise will be hearing just how good was Alan Coates as the band's harmony vocalist. He did a great job for over 15 years before hastily departing under somewhat murky circumstances... It will be nice to get some of these tracks in upgraded quality. A shame though they couldn't have got to the end of the Clarke era on the package. I think this will be the end of the line for these chronological releases. I'm sure The Howarth era (2004-) will be kept separate leaving only a handful of 'studio' tracks left from 1989-2003. I guess these other tracks could be used as future reissue/boxset fillers. A couple of extra things here: The limited edition German 'Coconut Collection & More' CD has not been made completely redundant by this set as it still includes some different mixes not found here. And for those who don't know, the excellently melodic 'For What It's Worth I'm Sorry' only features Clarke. Pretty sure none of the other Hollies are on it, and in fact they didn't even know of it's existence until it found it's way out as the B-Side to Stand By Me. Speaking of Germans, Uli Twelker always writes interesting, fact filled notes less often told - look forward to reading his contributions. All in all, I think Tim Chacksfield and co are to be congratulated for getting this release together. I'm not sure the world was crying out for it, so full marks for getting this over the line. Nice to finally have the WEA Nash-reunion era tracks included amongst all the EMI offerings. And who can resist buying a package that includes Corinne, the hilarious (IMHO) Hollies-do-reggae-on-sleeping tablets song that was consigned to the B side of what is often regarded as the band's biggest ever A-Side misfire, Wiggle That Wotsit (which I've personally never minded)? I do admire the band having a crack at reggae and it's certainly not the worst song they ever put out, even if the instrumental break never fails to bring a smile to my face. Just shows that even the band's most marginal material remains compelling. Gee - care to elaborate on your Laughter Turns To Tears remark? Was an inferior version almost included? cheers Simon Attachments:
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Post by gee on Feb 17, 2017 17:52:41 GMT
Hi Simon
yes nearly a quiet 'rough' mix instead of the clear single version that was on 'The Long Road Home' box set
I would assume that this will probably be the last multi CD set unless EMI / Warners come up with anything in the future (?) as it brings things nearly up to the end of the Clarke era
'What Goes Around...' appears in full here on CD six in the same track order too
'Wiggle That Wotsit' besides naff lyrics - that made Bernie Calvert cringe ! - wasn't that bad in that it had great Hicks guitar, tight vocal harmonies, strident Clarke vocal, decent percussion and a Chicago like brass section - it made No.11 in New Zealand too and charted in a few other countries so wasn't a complete 'flop' at all...
but 'rub-a-dub-hug-me...' is grim !! lol
I don't think there was anything really 'murky' re Alan Coates departure - he was with them 'on and off' from 1981 to 1983 (he's on those live recordings from Mainz in 1982) then more fully as regular high harmony vocals/vocals/guitar from 1984 (he's playing rhythm guitar behind Nash on that 'Archive Alive' / 'Reunion' live album) along up to 2004 - he's there right through Carl Wayne's era and he was in the first group publicity photo with Peter Howarth
- he was with them around 23 years or so give or take some months...far longer than either Nash or Sylvester (combined) served them
while of course Alan was something of a close 'Nash soundalike' - he turned in an excellent concert rendition of 'Butterfly' - 'Coatsey' as he became known to Hollies fans had a fine high harmony voice and stood out notably on 'Shine Silently' (especially the 12 inch single version with vocal intro), 'Your Eyes', 'Stand By Me', 'Find Me A Family', and the UK chart entry 'The Woman I Love'
and his strong lead guitarwork alongside Hicks, notably on the live 'Purple Rain', saw the Hollies have their first proper twin lead guitars since the Mike Rickfors era
he was of course also part of Broken English and was on their hit 'Comin' On Strong'
As I was told Alan and his second wife singer/actress Kim Goody got a lucrative job offer for doing music for the BBC which meant he'd need to give full time to that...plus they in partnership with a few others run a recording studio too - hence Alan departed on quite amicable terms I think and Steve Lauri came in (shades of Bernie Calvert's amicable departure in 1981 so that they could again do one big group reorganisation after losing Carl, as they had with Terry's exit back then)
I've often wondered what the current Hollies might have been like with 'Coatsey' still featured on high harmonies and co-lead guitar ?
Alan Coates was a decent songwriter too - he co-wrote Allan Clarke's 'Reasons To Believe in' and sang high harmony on several tracks on Clarkey's final solo album - The Hollies really should have utilised Coates songwriting talents
I believe The Hollies rated Alan Coates quite highly - he was part of the 'Nash reunion' USA touring band and they welcomed him back to the band when he was ready after his first wife very sadly passed away (it happened on Christmas day I think - Jeez !) and of course he had a spell off dealing with everything and as far as possible getting that under his belt, while Jamie Moses again deputised for him in The Hollies,
then later he 'did his back in'...but heroically sang and played his guitar laying down in the wings ! (talk about 'Layin' To The Music' !) - again they were glad to accomodate him until his back was better, so they must have regarded Alan Coates highly
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Post by johnt on Feb 17, 2017 22:11:59 GMT
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Post by JamesT on Feb 17, 2017 22:12:29 GMT
I hope everything not on the individual album releases of about a decade ago or the 'Long Road Home' box set has been remastered - I was listening to 'A Crazy Steal' (from the 'Four More Hollies Originals' set of 21 years ago) and boy, it could be doing with some sonic cleaning. I don't think this has been answered in the comments above, so I'm presuming most of the content from Write On, Russian Roulette, A Crazy Steal, Five Three One Double Seven O Four and What Goes Around hasn't been remastered? That's a great cover photo for the set, although I also really like the one from the front cover of The Long Road Home boxset. Bernie's definitely losing the battle with the thatch! |
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Post by gee on Feb 18, 2017 11:09:41 GMT
Don't expect many, if any new remasters James - I can't see too much money being spent on the tracks, we are probably lucky to get this third CD set at all...
Hopefully the CD booklet should include some decent photos and overseas picture sleeves of singles...
re Hair today...gone tomorrow
This always seemed to be an issue for at least one Hollies band member - first Bobby, then Bernie, later Alan Coates too !
Clarkey wore a sensible hairpiece that became more grey over time
I never understood why Bobby didn't adopt a hairpiece like his blonde 'Sing Hollies' one earlier around 1964....or why he later circa 1973 swapped it for that silly black cat one !! lol
Bobby could have got a blonde hairpiece in 1964, then had a longer one later in the seventies, then a shorter grey one in the later era to today....who would have thought about it ?
instead he wore all those caps and hats and only drew attention to his lack of thatch
Freddie and The Dreamers rhythm guitarist/keyboardist Roy Crewdson was similarly blighted on top, in 1963 he's clearly bald but on visiting the USA he donned a sensible hairpiece for 'The Ed Sullivan Show' and it made him look years younger !
nobody mentions Elton John's lack of real hair now - tho' years ago he likewise DREW ATTENTION to it...
Bernie, and later Alan Coates too could have opted for hairpieces in their original styles and would have looked better - for a band trying not to appear older it probably would have been a wiser move
Tony and Terry always looked good then, and Clarkey wore his hairpiece even if he suddenly visibly 'aged' alot over 1976 onwards
by 1980 Bobby was back in flat cap, Bernie looked very thin on top and it didn't help their image
Bobby going 'Kojak' on 'What Goes Around...'period looked a bit OTT
suely they all could have afforded hairpieces ?
I've heard quite alot of rock stars wear hairpieces - we know Phil Spector did too !
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Post by JamesT on Feb 18, 2017 16:37:18 GMT
Thanks Gee.
Re: bald Bobby, that interview clip with Russell Hearty when they were promoting Take My Love And Run was a classic... "Get outta that!"
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Post by stuball on Feb 18, 2017 17:47:12 GMT
Tony and Terry always looked good then, and Clarkey wore his hairpiece even if he suddenly visibly 'aged' alot over 1976 onwards by 1980 Bobby was back in flat cap, Bernie looked very thin on top and it didn't help their image Yes, there's no doubt that by the late '70's Tony and Terry were doing all the heavy lifting for the group, when it came to the 'looks' department. I suppose it was Allan's lifestyle that visibly aged him from the mid '70's on, and that frizzy perm did him no favours either. I saw him in concert in late '77 from quite close up and he looked 'worn' to me. That was only months before he walked out on the group a second time. Bobby had a young enough face but the changing hats, and later on the assorted wigs, if anything drew attention to his lack of hair. And Bernie's late '70's attempts with long, thinning hair and moustache, seemed somewhat like that embarrassing uncle we all knew, who in an attempt to be 'youthful' and 'cool', ended up faintly embarrassing. |
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Post by cameron on Feb 18, 2017 20:49:32 GMT
I don't think it really matters who had a hair piece and who didn't. At the end of the day, the boys were in the public eye and must have felt self-conscious anyway by the late 1970s as they'd not had a hit since 1974 and were perhaps resigning to joining the "oldies" circuit. Ageing appearances can't have helped their self-esteem! They were all pushing 40 by the end of the decade. I think Allan especially looked very "hagged" - years of drinking and smoking hadn't been kind to him. It's those cringy front-less Elvis outfits and the frizzy perm which was perhaps the worst element of the group. It wasn't a cool look. Allan says now that he's embarrassed to look back at those videos of the mid-late 1970s.
Tony and Terry were the "cool" guys of the group in the looks department. They always seemed to keep up with fashion and it suited them well - even by the mid-1980s, Tony looked cool in his padded suits, whereas Allan looked like your dad did when he was going through his mid-life crisis! I do know for a fact though that he never wore a hairpiece. Just Bobby. Even today Allan still has a full head of white hair.
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Post by JamesT on Feb 18, 2017 21:51:37 GMT
Cameron - can I remind you of Tony's dungaree look? 😁
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 22:24:47 GMT
I do know for a fact though that he never wore a hairpiece. Just Bobby. Even today Allan still has a full head of white hair. Rubbish. Compare the first video from late 1994 (particularly the closing few seconds) to the 2nd one filmed a year or so later:
Afterwards he started wearing shorter and more convincing wigs, as he still does today.
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Post by Stranger on Feb 19, 2017 0:02:51 GMT
IMHO the only time he's looked cool since 1974 was the early 90s when he had the beard and ponytail and wasn't trying to hide the receding hairline.
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Post by cameron on Feb 19, 2017 17:19:13 GMT
Back on topic, what are 'Born A Man' and 'Pick Up The Pieces Again' included on the set for? They were both on 'Changin' Times' and as far as I can tell, it's the same Rickfors recording as what appeared on 'Out On The Road' in 1973. 'Perhaps they were re-mixed before their use again, hence the inclusion on this set? I don't believe Allan added his vocals to these tracks though I would love it if I'm wrong.
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Post by gee on Feb 19, 2017 19:12:17 GMT
They were re-mixes, 'Pieces' had a bit of re-recording on the instrumentation too I believe - without re-checking I think the bass guitar differed and they altered the tempo a bit - there are separate recording dates in the session listings shown too
re 'Born A Man' the mix is different and I think they may have mixed back Mike's voice somewhat to more of a backup vocal, the first version is more a clear three part harmony, but the later version sounds more of a Sylvester/Hicks duet with the third voice more behind in the mix and the instrumentation was made a bit more prominent re volume - but I agree the two versions are very similar and virtually identical (I understand Tim went with the listed 'B' side to 'Curly Billy' which falls within the dates of this latest CD set)
re Allan's hair - sorry but Clarkey IS bald ! - there's a rare picture of Allan minus his hairpiece at a charity function meeting a lady at the event which was used in the local press at the time and was reproduced in an old edition of 'Carousel' - someone on here no doubt has it...(?)
I was quite shocked when I saw it and I do wonder if the dreaded mid seventies frizzy perm he had circa 1975-77 was to blame ?
- a guy I knew at work had a full head of hair, like his elderly Dad still had, and he copied the 'Kevin Keegan' look going all frizzy...however within a few years the poor guy's hair all fell out too...!!
it's VERY common re pop and rock stars - some like say Francis Rossi of Status Quo clearly don't care - but MANY do hide it...!
women too - Dusty Springfield had her own hair...but wore that blonde 'beehive' hairpiece and later various blonde hairpieces
Take a look at Hank Marvin on the cover pics of The Shadows 1975 EMI album 'Specs Appeal' - then look at him on his 80's Polydor solo album 'Words and Music' - not only has his hair got much much thicker, it's changed colour too going darker !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2017 20:55:21 GMT
re Allan's hair - sorry but Clarkey IS bald ! - there's a rare picture of Allan minus his hairpiece at a charity function meeting a lady at the event which was used in the local press at the time and was reproduced in an old edition of 'Carousel' - someone on here no doubt has it...(?) I was quite shocked when I saw it and I do wonder if the dreaded mid seventies frizzy perm he had circa 1975-77 was to blame ? - a guy I knew at work had a full head of hair, like his elderly Dad still had, and he copied the 'Kevin Keegan' look going all frizzy...however within a few years the poor guy's hair all fell out too...!! it's VERY common re pop and rock stars - some like say Francis Rossi of Status Quo clearly don't care - but MANY do hide it...! women too - Dusty Springfield had her own hair...but wore that blonde 'beehive' hairpiece and later various blonde hairpieces Take a look at Hank Marvin on the cover pics of The Shadows 1975 EMI album 'Specs Appeal' - then look at him on his 80's Polydor solo album 'Words and Music' - not only has his hair got much much thicker, it's changed colour too going darker ! Would love to see that pic (not that I need any proof!).
Francis Rossi has actually had several hair transplants (as has David Essex), though clearly they weren't a great success. Some artists you'd never suspect of wearing a wig... for examples, Del Shannon wore one from the mid 70s (and was rarely seen without a hat for a few years before that), and Carl Perkins wore one from 1956! Others seem more lucky, such as 81 year old Jerry Lee Lewis who still has a thick mop of hair, despite years of bleaching it (far worse for hair than perms!), and of course Graham, Tony and Terry are also all still blessed with thick and natural hair.
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