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Post by Gralto on May 4, 2022 13:37:57 GMT
As mentioned in the preceding thread, Graham Nash has undertaken a lengthy interview with The Guardian in the promotion of his new live album release. Several of the latter exchanges in the piece are fairly jaw dropping. It starts with many of the oft told tales we’ve heard so frequently but ends with a shattering bombshell about his current family situation filled with bitterness for both sides. Clearly some of the personal choices he has made in his recent life have had far reaching consequences he perhaps didn’t anticipate. Nash likes to give good quote - he knows how to play that game well - but I feel he may have overreached here with some revealing insights that - if true and not just said for effect for his family to read - paint him in a very unflattering light that perhaps he might wish to recant. Or not. He’s always been honest. I think it’s fair to say this interview is not his finest moment. The 500+ comments in the post article section are revealing with a very wide range of responses. Who said 80 year olds were boring? www.theguardian.com/music/2022/may/03/graham-nash-on-families-joni-mitchell-and-toxic-masculinity-if-you-could-kill-putin-would-you-i-would |
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Post by thejanitor on May 4, 2022 18:01:38 GMT
I can respect him being upfront about his views, but yikes, some of the things he says here make Terry's Twitter spats look wholesome!
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Post by gee on May 4, 2022 22:43:30 GMT
Ironic that Graham's children are now saying;
'My Life is Over With You'
....sounds familiar ?
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Post by anthony on May 4, 2022 23:28:56 GMT
thank you, very good read
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Post by dirtyfaz on May 5, 2022 0:20:46 GMT
It's in the Guardian. How much of it can we trust.
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Post by baz on May 5, 2022 0:46:31 GMT
It's in the Guardian. How much of it can we trust. Precisely. The interviewer asking Graham if his teeth were real was utterly dumb and irrelevant. That should have been left on the cutting room floor. To be honest, I don't know what to make or think about Graham these days as his interviews and actions over the last decade have often been rather strange. I sure don't think he's happy. |
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Post by anthony on May 5, 2022 10:25:28 GMT
I think Graham is still playing the hippie,
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on May 5, 2022 12:45:00 GMT
It's in the Guardian. How much of it can we trust. As much as any paper. It's my go-to. |
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on May 5, 2022 12:59:18 GMT
Maybe I can just shrug and say, "That's Graham," because he's had a lifetime of "quotable quotes," but the only disturbing thing about the interview to me--and even that much isn't a surprise because I've read it elsewhere--is his relationship toward his children. At the same time, they are grownups, not kids, and he can't live for them. His loyalty is to Amy, his wife and they seem very compatible.
Even as I read Wild Tales when it was first published, I knew something was "off" about his marriage--I finished the book not liking Susan as all. As if he was questioning all his relationships as he wrote the book and he couldn't hide his ambivalence toward her. When they split, I wasn't surprised.
However, not sure how much the interviewer knew about him in the first place if he says something as eye-rolling as "Nash had been regarded as one of the quiet men of the music industry"!
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Post by gee on May 5, 2022 22:05:56 GMT
I know little about Nash's marriage to Susan but I remember being told years ago (I forget who said it now but someone within their circle) that Graham and Susan had an unusual marriage in that they had periods of time when they did not live together - no falling out, just that they weren't always living together but then would reunite for a time, then part again...and this was the course of their marriage overall
whatever !
is it my imagination or does his young wife Amy look somewhat like a young Joni Mitchell....?
Nash's attitude towards his children - if accurately quoted - seems rather self centered at best and for a guy aged 80 years rather clueless otherwise... - children NOT taking to whoever replaces a parent following a divorce is nothing that strange is it ? - surely Nash if he put himself in their place (don't wanna lose face?) would realise how much disruption in their lives the divorce would create - even a figure like Crosby feels it ! -
ironic Nash in 1965 sang; 'so your friends turn their backs and laugh at me...'
and what was that about 'Teach your children well...' ??
The irony
Hopefully Nash can rebuild some relationship with his children over time...
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on May 6, 2022 13:07:45 GMT
I know little about Nash's marriage to Susan but I remember being told years ago (I forget who said it now but someone within their circle) that Graham and Susan had an unusual marriage in that they had periods of time when they did not live together - no falling out, just that they weren't always living together but then would reunite for a time, then part again...and this was the course of their marriage overall whatever ! is it my imagination or does his young wife Amy look somewhat like a young Joni Mitchell....? Nash's attitude towards his children - if accurately quoted - seems rather self centered at best and for a guy aged 80 years rather clueless otherwise... - children NOT taking to whoever replaces a parent following a divorce is nothing that strange is it ? - surely Nash if he put himself in their place (don't wanna lose face?) would realise how much disruption in their lives the divorce would create - even a figure like Crosby feels it ! - ironic Nash in 1965 sang; 'so your friends turn their backs and laugh at me...' and what was that about 'Teach your children well...' ?? The irony Hopefully Nash can rebuild some relationship with his children over time... Not just you. Nash even acknowledges the resemblance. Dude's gotta type, obviously! I don't know whether it's being self-centred or being resigned to reality. He and Amy have been married for years now, and I'm sure he's tried to build a bridge (and it sounds as if his daughter has tentatively stepped onto it) but he won't do it at the expense of putting her second. I mean, what's their side of the story? Are they like him? All or nothing? And what's he supposed to do at this point? Maybe refuse to discuss it in the press--I probably would, but Nash isn't going to change at his age. |
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Post by moorlock2003 on May 6, 2022 16:53:03 GMT
Nash refuses to grow up. This was a complaint of Nash’s regarding The Hollies. It seems he’s the one who can’t get beyond the sex drugs and rock and roll cliche. Nash is like a kid in a candy store wanting every sweet for himself, and feeling entitled because of his wealth. I would like him to treat The Holllies’ work with respect; an interview where he discusses the band’s underrated albums would be worth reading. Hearing about him leaving his wife of over 30 years for a pretty young thing is tabloid stuff not worthy of an artist of Nash’s caliber, but he apparently revels in it. And we’re still supposed to have respect for him when he shirks his responsibility as a husband and father. I agree with David Crosby; Nash’s behavior is appalling.
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Post by JamesT on May 7, 2022 7:29:47 GMT
On the plus side, his live album is wonderful and he is in fine voice.
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Post by moorlock2003 on May 7, 2022 11:29:30 GMT
On the plus side, his live album is wonderful and he is in fine voice. I wouldn’t know, or care. I am a Hollies fan, not a Graham Nash fan. |
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on May 7, 2022 12:35:31 GMT
His responsibility isn't to adult children. They are responsible for themselves. And it's silly to stay in a bad marriage when you find a more compatible partner. His attitude toward Susan in Wild Tales was the elephant in the room, in my opinion, and he was still married to her when I read it. Leaving her for Amy didn't surprise me one bit.
And personally, if he's still friends with the dude he started the band with 60 years ago, then his opinions regarding their legacy are only an issue to us. Personally I don't agree with those opinions as I don't find his post-Hollies output to be that more evolved but meh.
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Post by sandy on May 8, 2022 18:27:52 GMT
On the plus side, his live album is wonderful and he is in fine voice. A member of his appreciation society has posted that even Graham has lowered the key of most of his stuff for the live stuff at the moment? ....it's bound to happen, isn't it- and nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, it's sensible. ... it'll be interesting to see if Macca does the same this summer at Glastonbury....he really should these days, as he's obviously struggling these past few years too, if we're honest😳 |
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Post by baz on May 8, 2022 21:45:03 GMT
A member of his appreciation society has posted that even Graham has lowered the key of most of his stuff for the live stuff at the moment? ....it's bound to happen, isn't it- and nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, it's sensible. ... it'll be interesting to see if Macca does the same this summer at Glastonbury....he really should these days, as he's obviously struggling these past few years too, if we're honest😳 Macca's deteriorating voice over the last ten years or so has been very depressing to witness and hear. His last album was hard to listen to... difficult to believe it was McCartney singing as his voice has changed so much. Whilst it's sensible and I can understand why keys get lowered, I just can't accept or enjoy hearing songs in that way. I recently listened to Bryan Ferry's "Live At The Royal Albert Hall" album which he recorded just before the lockdowns and almost every song was in lower keys and sounded "wrong" to my ears yet bizarrely, some of the earliest Roxy Music songs from 1972 were in their original keys! |
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