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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Feb 23, 2022 2:13:57 GMT
GAH. I tell my friend Nathan that I bought the On Track...The Hollies: Every album, every song and say, kidding, "Ask me anything!" So he says, "Okay, tell me about 'Suspicious Look In Your Eyes.' Is it inspired by 'Mr. Tambourine Man'?" I crack open the book for the first time and it says that it was "one of TONY'S rare lead vocals."  *head desk head desk head desk* Please tell me that's one of the few boo-boos people!!  |
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Post by baz on Feb 23, 2022 15:31:38 GMT
Ouch. Makes one wonder if Mr Darlington has even listened to the music as the vocal on that song is so distinctively Allan Clarke!
What next? "Pegasus" being an ultra rare vocal by Bernie Calvert?
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Post by JamesT on Feb 23, 2022 19:08:57 GMT
It's an interesting enough read, but fairly superficial and lacking in detail in some respects. There were other errors I picked up on but can't remember what they were.
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Feb 24, 2022 14:34:53 GMT
Ouch. Makes one wonder if Mr Darlington has even listened to the music as the vocal on that song is so distinctively Allan Clarke! What next? "Pegasus" being an ultra rare vocal by Bernie Calvert? Exactly. Nobody bends a vowel like Allan!! He's an accent unto himself! |
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Post by moorlock2003 on Feb 27, 2022 16:47:29 GMT
This is an example of why I won't buy any books on The Hollies, not even Bobby's. Errors, whitewashing, and ommissions abound. However, if Terry comes out with a tell-all, I think THAT would be interesting, even if he is a bit nutters. It would be colourful I'm sure.
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Post by gee on Feb 27, 2022 23:14:13 GMT
Malcolm C Searles book 'Riding The Carousel' is pretty objective with NO 'whitewashing' at all and is pretty accurate detail wise with much information re all eras of their history
Terry could provide a fascinating book about both merseybeat and his years in The Hollies plus later working solo and with James Griffin
- or he could just rant away (forgetting just how much of his successful pop music career he owes to The Hollies) which even if 'colourful' would do his own standing few favors and make an important sixties music figure just look like an embittered has been who 'burned his bridges' long ago and has now been long left out of the loop..
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Post by moorlock2003 on Feb 28, 2022 2:55:53 GMT
The Hollies suffered immensely after Terry left. His vocal harmony was an essential ingredient to their music. He harmonized beautifully with Clarke/Hicks and Rickfors/Hicks. Nash reunion aside, it wasn't The Hollies anymore without him. None of those hired hands came remotely close. I don't see the problem as being with Terry. At least he showed up for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, while Tony and Bobby snubbed it, after Nash pleaded with them to come. If it didn't mean anything to them, why did they later boast about it in an interview? They had no excuse to not to show up. Their planned concert could have been rescheduled. The fans would have understood. Tony and Bobby's problem is that they are petty and hold grudges. I heard Tony doesn't even hang around for meet and greets with fans. Who has the attitude problem?
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Post by anthony on Mar 1, 2022 3:00:58 GMT
I was thinking about getting the book but if it has mistakes what's the point. Real shame
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Post by anthony on Mar 1, 2022 3:04:11 GMT
This is an example of why I won't buy any books on The Hollies, not even Bobby's. Errors, whitewashing, and ommissions abound. However, if Terry comes out with a tell-all, I think THAT would be interesting, even if he is a bit nutters. It would be colourful I'm sure. I'm sure Terrys book would be a good read, but it would be his spin, A lot depends on what sort of book people are after, a tell all with all the dirty secrets, don't think those books do any favours plus apart from Hollies fans no body would be really interested. |
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Mar 1, 2022 14:42:42 GMT
This is an example of why I won't buy any books on The Hollies, not even Bobby's. Errors, whitewashing, and ommissions abound. However, if Terry comes out with a tell-all, I think THAT would be interesting, even if he is a bit nutters. It would be colourful I'm sure. I'm sure Terrys book would be a good read, but it would be his spin, A lot depends on what sort of book people are after, a tell all with all the dirty secrets, don't think those books do any favours plus apart from Hollies fans no body would be really interested. I I don't think it will ever happen. He's too busy watching the footie. |
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Post by The Dude on Mar 1, 2022 22:36:50 GMT
The Hollies suffered immensely after Terry left. His vocal harmony was an essential ingredient to their music. He harmonized beautifully with Clarke/Hicks and Rickfors/Hicks. Nash reunion aside, it wasn't The Hollies anymore without him. None of those hired hands came remotely close. I don't see the problem as being with Terry. At least he showed up for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, while Tony and Bobby snubbed it, after Nash pleaded with them to come. If it didn't mean anything to them, why did they later boast about it in an interview? They had no excuse to not to show up. Their planned concert could have been rescheduled. The fans would have understood. Tony and Bobby's problem is that they are petty and hold grudges. I heard Tony doesn't even hang around for meet and greets with fans. Who has the attitude problem? I never thought I would say this, but you have a point... I was hanging back at the theatre's stage entrance door in Sunderland for ages to meet up with the band members back in November 2003, waiting for the members to come out, in my case just to have a word or two with them because I've never been an autopgraph hunter, and surely Ray Stiles, Ian Parker, Carl Wayne and Alan Coates left the theatre quite soon, fulfilling their fan based duties and talking to us (I had a small conversation with Carl, before he reversed his car, nearly running me over, had his P.A. Helen (since then a good friend of mine) not pulled me back in time... and then we waited for more than an hour to finally see Tony and Bobby appear, whom clearly weren't to pleased to see us still waiting for them... they duly handed out signatures and then left as quickly as possible... an eye-opener for me... |
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Post by The Dude on Mar 1, 2022 23:13:49 GMT
The Hollies suffered immensely after Terry left. His vocal harmony was an essential ingredient to their music. He harmonized beautifully with Clarke/Hicks and Rickfors/Hicks. Nash reunion aside, it wasn't The Hollies anymore without him. None of those hired hands came remotely close. I don't see the problem as being with Terry. At least he showed up for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, while Tony and Bobby snubbed it, after Nash pleaded with them to come. If it didn't mean anything to them, why did they later boast about it in an interview? They had no excuse to not to show up. Their planned concert could have been rescheduled. The fans would have understood. Tony and Bobby's problem is that they are petty and hold grudges. I heard Tony doesn't even hang around for meet and greets with fans. Who has the attitude problem? I never thought I would say this, but you have a point... I was hanging back at the theatre's stage entrance door in Sunderland for ages to meet up with the band members back in November 2003, waiting for the members to come out, in my case just to have a word or two with them because I've never been an autopgraph hunter, and surely Ray Stiles, Ian Parker, Carl Wayne and Alan Coates left the theatre quite soon, fulfilling their fan based duties and talking to us (I had a small conversation with Carl, before he reversed his car, nearly running me over, had his P.A. Helen (since then a good friend of mine) not pulled me back in time... and then we waited for more than an hour to finally see Tony and Bobby appear, whom clearly weren't to pleased to see us still waiting for them... they duly handed out signatures and then left as quickly as possible... an eye-opener for me... ...havingh said that. Alan Coates was a more than adequate replacement for Sylvester. Not only were his high harmonies spot on, he was a far better guitar player.... |
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Post by gee on Mar 2, 2022 0:02:38 GMT
Alan Coates was a great guitarist, as 'Purple Rain' (live version) proved giving The Hollies their first guitar duet since Mike Rickfors days
Alan wrote 'Reasons To Believe in' for Allan Clarke so clearly was a decent songwriter too BUT they never used him...!!!
for the high harmonies Alan Coates was actually closer to Graham Nash vocal sound (hence him singing 'Butterfly' in concerts) overall than Terry Sylvester's more impassioned high harmony voice was...
and numbers such as 'Shine Silently' (especially the twelve inch single version with vocal intro), 'Stand By Me' (which charted in Germany), 'Find Me a Family', 'Your Eyes', and the final Allan Clarke Hollies UK chart single 'The Woman I Love' all featured Alan Coates excellent more 'Nash like' high harmony vocal to fine effect
I do wonder WHAT IF Alan Coates had remained when Peter Howarth took over from Carl Wayne...how much more recognisable the Hollies harmonies might have remained...?
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Post by gee on Mar 2, 2022 0:04:49 GMT
Find Me A Family
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Post by gee on Mar 2, 2022 0:08:14 GMT
Your Eyes
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Post by gee on Mar 2, 2022 0:11:11 GMT
Stand By Me
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Post by gee on Mar 2, 2022 0:13:35 GMT
The Woman I Love
A shame they never recorded any albums with Alan Coates who gave them over 18 years full time service between 1981 and 2004
The Clarke-Hicks-Coates harmonies are closer to the dynamic Clarke-Hicks-Nash harmonies...where as Terry Sylvester gave them a much more emotive high harmony vocal sound with a pathos tinge which was perfect for the 1969 and seventies songs and for the Rickfors Hollies material
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Post by JamesT on Mar 2, 2022 5:51:37 GMT
Not wanting to revisit well gone-over ground, but Alan Coates' leaving and how it was handled was absolutely pathetic. Gee, you're completely correct about Alan sounding Nash-like. I'm afraid I've never been interested in meeting Bobby or Tony; certainly I've heard plenty of stories about the latter and his reluctance to meet fans.
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Post by JamesT on Mar 2, 2022 5:52:44 GMT
I was thinking about getting the book but if it has mistakes what's the point. Real shame It's not all bad, Anthony. Get it and see what you think. |
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Post by anthony on Mar 2, 2022 8:31:52 GMT
I was thinking about getting the book but if it has mistakes what's the point. Real shame It's not all bad, Anthony. Get it and see what you think. Thank you, I took your advice and placed in my order |
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Post by anthony on Mar 2, 2022 8:43:09 GMT
Love this song, Allan was still in fine voice, such a pity the didn’t record an Album or two in the 90’s. I think they lost their nerve after the what goes around Album. just like to say the times I had a chat with Bob I always found him very friendly and had a lot of memories for his trips to Oz. |
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Post by knut on Mar 2, 2022 10:56:49 GMT
Anthony - you will not regret it. It is very interesting reading. Every book has minor mistakes.
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Post by anthony on Mar 2, 2022 11:03:21 GMT
Anthony - you will not regret it. It is very interesting reading. Every book has minor mistakes. Thanks Knut, now I’m pleased I’ve ordered it |
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Mar 2, 2022 13:25:46 GMT
It's not all bad, Anthony. Get it and see what you think. Thank you, I took your advice and placed in my order Yeah, I could have just lucked out and found the only big boo-boo! |
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Mar 2, 2022 13:27:13 GMT
Anthony - you will not regret it. It is very interesting reading. Every book has minor mistakes. That being said, a typo is a "minor" mistake. Saying Tony is Allan is far from minor. But I haven't written the entire book off yet. |
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