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Post by Stranger on Apr 25, 2019 17:44:37 GMT
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Post by anthony on Apr 25, 2019 22:45:24 GMT
Funny thing is I think Graham Nash is just an old Hippy, a guy that knows how to work the camera well. Its like at the Hall of fame with the Hollies, could not have been nicer, other times didn't want to mention the Hollies, only CSN&Y. Talks about following your dream, but I think he doesn't mind who he hurts on the way. In some ways I liken him to Ringo ,it's all peace and love talk but just meaningless crap. Hey I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
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Post by JamesT on Apr 26, 2019 6:15:19 GMT
Would tend to agree with that assessment, Anthony. Plus, I'd rather not hear about Grampa Graham still having lead in his pencil!
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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 26, 2019 10:22:40 GMT
I totally love Graham's work in The Hollies, but as a person, he is perplexing. He supports Bernie Sanders for President, who has a socialist agenda, yet Graham is mighty impressed with wealth, making him a firm capitalist. So he is a contradiction. I've mentioned before his response when I asked him why The Hollies weren't on The Ed Sullivan Show like they should have been, and he chose to knock The Hollies once again, saying "Maybe they weren't good enough". Come to think of it, perhaps the only Hollie I really think well of is Bernie Calvert, who in interviews is always level-headed and has no personal agenda. But I like Terry, too, but he sure doesn't dress like he used to.
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Post by gee on Apr 26, 2019 11:28:22 GMT
I always take what Graham Nash says with a HUGE pinch of salt...lol
His 'story' about the kid next door Graham Gouldman was a charming tale...but complete fiction !
so I'd never put much stock in whatever Graham says and most certainly re politics ! - indeed one minute he's so anti establishment and dead against this...the next quietly accepting an honour from the Queen etc
he does talk some nonsense...but also has some valid views and it depends what mood he is in or who he is addressing
he is a master of 'PR' and has both an unpleasant hypocritical side to him and a caring very friendly side (Nash sent memorabilia to a Hollies fan convention when the band members failed to !) plus he remembered Don Rathbone and helped a stuttering Eric Haydock during that Hall of Fame speech
Nash boosted The Hollies career A GREAT DEAL (notably by fronting them, pushing them forward, getting them songwriting etc)...and has been the 'glue' holding CSN(Y) together for many years plus has had a decent semi regular solo career too so on a musical level he deserves much respect
Nash has contributed much to our lives musically so I can turn a deaf ear to his often absurd talk and 'cherry pick' out the interesting comments he makes
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Post by anthony on Apr 26, 2019 22:54:35 GMT
I always take what Graham Nash says with a HUGE pinch of salt...lol His 'story' about the kid next door Graham Gouldman was a charming tale...but complete fiction ! so I'd never put much stock in whatever Graham says and most certainly re politics ! - indeed one minute he's so anti establishment and dead against this...the next quietly accepting an honour from the Queen etc he does talk some nonsense...but also has some valid views and it depends what mood he is in or who he is addressing he is a master of 'PR' and has both an unpleasant hypocritical side to him and a caring very friendly side (Nash sent memorabilia to a Hollies fan convention when the band members failed to !) plus he remembered Don Rathbone and helped a stuttering Eric Haydock during that Hall of Fame speech Nash boosted The Hollies career A GREAT DEAL (notably by fronting them, pushing them forward, getting them songwriting etc)...and has been the 'glue' holding CSN(Y) together for many years plus has had a decent semi regular solo career too so on a musical level he deserves much respect Nash has contributed much to our lives musically so I can turn a deaf ear to his often absurd talk and 'cherry pick' out the interesting comments he makes It does make me laugh about some of these pop stars, asked about an advent 50 plus years ago and they remember it to the very last detail, Gee I'm lucky to remember what I had for dinner. Heard an interview with Allan and when asked about some songs he would ask what album was that from. that was more real.
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Post by gee on Apr 27, 2019 11:30:51 GMT
Allan even way back in Stockholm in December 1966 got the name of the most recent Hollies album wrong...!
I think Allan saw their material as 'work items' and was far more interested in the music of others who inspired and entertained him , like Bruce Springsteen etc which is fair enough as to him The Hollies were his job rather than his musical preference etc, that doesn't mean he didn't appreciate what they did but would see it in a different way to us just enjoying the music they made etc
John Lennon felt the same re his music and Beatles songs
Allan never seemed to be that bothered about past songs - in a concert I attended in the eighties someone asked them to do 'Crusader' - Allan said he'd never heard of it !
Tony remembered it as 'an old album track'
Allan said; 'not by us ?'
Tony; 'yeah WE wrote it...!'
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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 27, 2019 18:57:48 GMT
Allan even way back in Stockholm in December 1966 got the name of the most recent Hollies album wrong...! I think Allan saw their material as 'work items' and was far more interested in the music of others who inspired and entertained him , like Bruce Springsteen etc which is fair enough as to him The Hollies were his job rather than his musical preference etc, that doesn't mean he didn't appreciate what they did but would see it in a different way to us just enjoying the music they made etc John Lennon felt the same re his music and Beatles songs Allan never seemed to be that bothered about past songs - in a concert I attended in the eighties someone asked them to do 'Crusader' - Allan said he'd never heard of it ! Tony remembered it as 'an old album track' Allan said; 'not by us ?' Tony; 'yeah WE wrote it...!' It seems that Graham is not the only one who has a blase attitude towards The Hollies' music. Now I understand why Clarke messed up the lyric on "He Ain't Heavy" on radio and TV. He just wasn't into it that much! |
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Post by gee on Apr 27, 2019 19:13:05 GMT
it does seem that neither Graham or Allan were or are THAT bothered re The Hollies in some ways
Graham clearly puts CSN(Y) first which rightly or wrongly can at least be understood from his viewpoint
Allan's attitude does seem odd at times - in that LTAW DVD he made a very strange remark re Nash's exit being the END of The Hollies !
also having himself chosen to only front the band he co-founded after Nash left but leaving the RUNNING of the group to Tony he too quit in late 1971...then bemoans Tony turning down his offer to do the USA tour as a result of the totally unexpected Stateside success of LCW (due to Epic records guy putting it out as a single NOT down to the band themselves)...and Tony probably felt IF they were a success with Allan then he would only 'walk' for a second time - as he later briefly did again in 1978 - so Hicks 'error' re turning down Clarke's offer can be seen as to an extent understandable at the time re the situation between Clarke and The Hollies
Terry Sylvester has spoken of;
'Clarke made his annual threat to leave...'
which hardly implies any great closeness or sense of loyalty or 'bond' between Allan and his bandmates - one of the big problems behind the scenes during the seventies I suspect
Allan made it clear he disliked 'A Crazy Steal'....tho' he co-wrote 80% of it's songs !
I do recall when 'He Ain't Heavy' hit no.1 in the UK later on re-issue in 1988 (again down to outside reasons - a TV Beer commercial ! - NOT in any way re the group's doing at all...) Allan was moaning about his being recognised in the local supermarket again when out shopping !
The Searchers even remarked onstage how MISERABLE Allan looked performing 'Heavy' on BBC TV's 'Top of The Pops' saying they would be over the moon to be at number one in the singles charts again...!!
Allan clearly liked the success on his terms but only that it appears probably why his solo carer failed to take off
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 20:15:48 GMT
I wish Graham and his new wife all the best. Good for him, (hopefully) finding what he's looking for.
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Post by anthony on Apr 27, 2019 23:43:56 GMT
it does seem that neither Graham or Allan were or are THAT bothered re The Hollies in some ways Graham clearly puts CSN(Y) first which rightly or wrongly can at least be understood from his viewpoint Allan's attitude does seem odd at times - in that LTAW DVD he made a very strange remark re Nash's exit being the END of The Hollies ! also having himself chosen to only front the band he co-founded after Nash left but leaving the RUNNING of the group to Tony he too quit in late 1971...then bemoans Tony turning down his offer to do the USA tour as a result of the totally unexpected Stateside success of LCW (due to Epic records guy putting it out as a single NOT down to the band themselves)...and Tony probably felt IF they were a success with Allan then he would only 'walk' for a second time - as he later briefly did again in 1978 - so Hicks 'error' re turning down Clarke's offer can be seen as to an extent understandable at the time re the situation between Clarke and The Hollies Terry Sylvester has spoken of; 'Clarke made his annual threat to leave...' which hardly implies any great closeness or sense of loyalty or 'bond' between Allan and his bandmates - one of the big problems behind the scenes during the seventies I suspect Allan made it clear he disliked 'A Crazy Steal'....tho' he co-wrote 80% of it's songs ! I do recall when 'He Ain't Heavy' hit no.1 in the UK later on re-issue in 1988 (again down to outside reasons - a TV Beer commercial ! - NOT in any way re the group's doing at all...) Allan was moaning about his being recognised in the local supermarket again when out shopping ! The Searchers even remarked onstage how MISERABLE Allan looked performing 'Heavy' on BBC TV's 'Top of The Pops' saying they would be over the moon to be at number one in the singles charts again...!! Allan clearly liked the success on his terms but only that it appears probably why his solo carer failed to take off I think Allan really had a love hate relationship with the Hollies, To me he never seemed fully happy, the fact that Nash made it so big I think could be a factor to it, everyone knew who Graham was, could not imagine a lot knew the name of the lead singer of the Hollies. I remember he was asked once about making a concert video and the answer was they know what we look like, he wasn't interested. |
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