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Post by JamesT on Apr 1, 2023 7:43:34 GMT
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Post by gee on Apr 1, 2023 22:57:16 GMT
lead track the reflective 'Right Now' which features some nifty guitar, but it seems a bit too brief and maybe could have done with an extended instrumental guitar playout (?)
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Post by gee on Apr 5, 2023 22:12:55 GMT
I believe this song 'A Better Life' may be a single from the new solo album
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Post by knut on Apr 6, 2023 6:35:49 GMT
Thank you, Gee!
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Post by gee on May 20, 2023 23:33:58 GMT
My copies of 'Now' on LP and CD arrived today
- not had the chance to play either yet however I do see in the credits that Allan Clarke DOES feature on vocals on 'Buddy's Back' here so it seems likely it is the same version as on Clarkey's solo album
Allan is included in the 'thanks to...' names as well
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on May 21, 2023 8:05:12 GMT
Played Grahams new album just the once, you can't hear Allan on 'Buddy's back'
As for the rest of the album, and I've loved 95% of all Graham's previous work, this album is very poor, not a patch even on 'This path tonight' and a million miles away from Allan's latest 2 albums.....
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Post by sandy on May 21, 2023 8:37:15 GMT
Played Grahams new album just the once, you can't hear Allan on 'Buddy's back' As for the rest of the album, and I've loved 95% of all Graham's previous work, this album is very poor, not a patch even on 'This path tonight' and a million miles away from Allan's latest 2 albums..... Have to say,Tony, after listening, I totally, totally agree. The level of songwriting, lyrically,and musically,is indeed a world apart. I think both are in, maybe understandably, reflective modes,but Allan is much more in turn poetic,and powerfully inventive in his expression of that life stage. |
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Post by gee on May 21, 2023 21:21:56 GMT
It's a different version in that it is sung in close harmony duet throughout by Graham and Allan - more like the 'Ricky & Dane Young' style where as Allan's featuring Graham on specific sections was more in the 'Hollies style' vocally
- I can hear Allan's voice so maybe others need to listen again
I enjoyed the album and don't feel the need to compare it to Allan's album at all, both are fine works in my opinion and Graham's album is certainly not 'very poor' at all, and no way can anyone really properly judge an album on just one listen, you need a number of plays in order to get into an album at least and you can change your opinion on an album over time of course
frankly I don't see the point in comparing Graham's album with Allan's at all
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on May 21, 2023 21:59:49 GMT
I somehow managed to warm not only to Allan's last 2 albums after 1 play but also Graham's 'This path tonight' and absolutely every solo and collaboration works that Graham has ever recorded but 'Now' just doesn't anywhere near hit the spot...
I still cannot hear Allan on 'Buddy's back' after listening intently to Graham's version....
All about opinions eh.. ?
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Post by baz on May 21, 2023 23:11:34 GMT
It's a different version in that it is sung in close harmony duet throughout by Graham and Allan - more like the 'Ricky & Dane Young' style where as Allan's featuring Graham on specific sections was more in the 'Hollies style' vocally - I can hear Allan's voice so maybe others need to listen again I can hear Allan too. It's basically down to being mixed very differently. Allan's mix has the vocals upfront in the mix with Graham a little higher and more prominent whereas Graham's mix has the vocals mixed lower and more balanced with Graham less prominent, enabling both voices to meld together as one. Allan's mix is wider stereo-wise which also enables the vocals to be more prominent whereas Graham's is narrower allowing the vocals to merge within the music. That's my observation anyway judging from a listen and before and after comparisons. I'm not sure which mix I prefer actually but I find them both enjoyable as hey, it's Allan and Graham harmonising again and remarkably still have that magic between them. |
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Post by gee on May 22, 2023 21:43:55 GMT
I have listened a few times now, and spotted a few variations I missed on my first listen re 'Buddy's Back'
- I agree re how the voices are mixed on each version while on Graham's I think the key difference is that Graham opens singing TWO vocals in close harmony together...note then after the first two verses at about 1 minute 10 secs in Allan then joins in as co-lead voice (singing; 'Buddy Holly was who we loved right from the heart...' etc)
- note the intro of the deeper voice 'filling out' the vocal sound
(as Tony so often did on Hollies tracks)
'Two Grahams and an Allan' (!) then sing on as lead voices with an additional somewhat background high harmony Graham adding an additional voice - shades of The Hollies style in fact as it goes on (remember 'Listen To Me' ?)
the mix is different and probably the guitarwork differs too - so NOT just lazily putting the same version on both their respective solo albums which is laudable on both guys parts
Nash's style is seemingly more lightweight - I find his works grow on repeated listens ("Songs For Beginners' I found a bit bland at first but not later tho' 'Wild Tales' I loved from the word go) while his song messages are positive as if he's aware how down so many people must be feeling after the past few years and also that we need to be aware !
I like the variety of styles - one song is Nash with a string section, another 'Stand Up' has crunching guitars that made me think of CSNY
both Allan and Graham's solo albums are worth repeated listens and both are welcome after so little Hollies related music in recent years
anyone know how to order Mike Rickfors new solo album ? - I can't seem to find it at all on Amazon UK !
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Post by gee on May 22, 2023 21:45:55 GMT
This one is growing on me each play...
Stand Up
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Post by JamesT on May 23, 2023 6:35:07 GMT
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Post by gee on May 23, 2023 21:14:54 GMT
Many Thanks James !
my copy arrived from Amazon UK today - thursday 25 May - which was pretty fast service
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Post by anthony on May 25, 2023 9:09:41 GMT
I have listened a few times now, and spotted a few variations I missed on my first listen re 'Buddy's Back' - I agree re how the voices are mixed on each version while on Graham's I think the key difference is that Graham opens singing TWO vocals in close harmony together...note then after the first two verses at about 1 minute 10 secs in Allan then joins in as co-lead voice (singing; 'Buddy Holly was who we loved right from the heart...' etc) - note the intro of the deeper voice 'filling out' the vocal sound (as Tony so often did on Hollies tracks) 'Two Grahams and an Allan' (!) then sing on as lead voices with an additional somewhat background high harmony Graham adding an additional voice - shades of The Hollies style in fact as it goes on (remember 'Listen To Me' ?) the mix is different and probably the guitarwork differs too - so NOT just lazily putting the same version on both their respective solo albums which is laudable on both guys parts Nash's style is seemingly more lightweight - I find his works grow on repeated listens ("Songs For Beginners' I found a bit bland at first but not later tho' 'Wild Tales' I loved from the word go) while his song messages are positive as if he's aware how down so many people must be feeling after the past few years and also that we need to be aware ! I like the variety of styles - one song is Nash with a string section, another 'Stand Up' has crunching guitars that made me think of CSNY both Allan and Graham's solo albums are worth repeated listens and both are welcome after so little Hollies related music in recent years anyone know how to order Mike Rickfors new solo album ? - I can't seem to find it at all on Amazon UK ! I really like Grahams version of the song. |
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Post by gee on May 25, 2023 21:38:58 GMT
yes indeed anthony
Allan (featuring Graham) and Graham (featuring Allan) have each done great versions of a fine song - I also like the respective instrumental style 'salutes' to Buddy in each version too !
a cool reflective topical song 'Stars and Stripes'
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Post by JamesT on May 28, 2023 8:55:21 GMT
I have to say I prefer the Nash mix of Buddy's Back.
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on May 29, 2023 8:39:48 GMT
I have to say I prefer the Nash mix of Buddy's Back. Sounds more retro, doesn't it? We bought the Nash CD on the weekend (why is it in stores and Clarke's not?)...nice production, I have to say. But Allan's still the poet of the two. |
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Post by JamesT on May 29, 2023 17:49:39 GMT
I have to say I prefer the Nash mix of Buddy's Back. Sounds more retro, doesn't it? We bought the Nash CD on the weekend (why is it in stores and Clarke's not?)...nice production, I have to say. But Allan's still the poet of the two. To be honest, the Nash vocal sounds more at ease with the track than Allan's. |
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Post by sandy on May 29, 2023 19:16:49 GMT
Sounds more retro, doesn't it? We bought the Nash CD on the weekend (why is it in stores and Clarke's not?)...nice production, I have to say. But Allan's still the poet of the two. To be honest, the Nash vocal sounds more at ease with the track than Allan's. I think ( or have I imagined..) that Allan said in one of his numerous interviews recently that it was set lower than he would have liked, and I tend to agree. Maybe Graham was just trying to make it a safer lower key for him, but got it slightly too low to sound like him? |
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