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Post by calvertbesseralseric on Aug 25, 2020 12:35:14 GMT
Can't believe I hadn't heard this before today! A marvelous cover of Allan's fantastic A Little Thing Like Love by one Tony Rivers, produced by the great Eric Woolfson, no less! I think this is a fine take, and may even rate it above the Hollies' rather poppy take on the tune - this version seems to imbue the song with a bit more of the soul and character it really deserves. Maybe I'm just hopelessly out of the loop, but if this is new for you too then enjoy:
I'd be interested to know what your favourite Hollies covers are. I've always loved The Posies' take on King Midas in Reverse and Wicked Lester (predecessor to Kiss)'s take on I Wanna Shout.
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on Aug 25, 2020 12:47:24 GMT
Can't believe I hadn't heard this before today! A marvelous cover of Allan's fantastic A Little Thing Like Love by one Tony Rivers, produced by the great Eric Woolfson, no less! I think this is a fine take, and may even rate it above the Hollies' rather poppy take on the tune - this version seems to imbue the song with a bit more of the soul and character it really deserves. Maybe I'm just hopelessly out of the loop, but if this is new for you too then enjoy: I'd be interested to know what your favourite Hollies covers are. I've always loved The Posies' take on King Midas in Reverse and Wicked Lester (predecessor to Kiss)'s take on I Wanna Shout. I'm gonna go rogue here (I know, not unusual) but I have no interest in ANY Hollies covers, won't even listen to them, ( tin hat firmly on...!!)
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Aug 25, 2020 15:26:03 GMT
Can't believe I hadn't heard this before today! A marvelous cover of Allan's fantastic A Little Thing Like Love by one Tony Rivers, produced by the great Eric Woolfson, no less! I think this is a fine take, and may even rate it above the Hollies' rather poppy take on the tune - this version seems to imbue the song with a bit more of the soul and character it really deserves. Maybe I'm just hopelessly out of the loop, but if this is new for you too then enjoy: I'd be interested to know what your favourite Hollies covers are. I've always loved The Posies' take on King Midas in Reverse and Wicked Lester (predecessor to Kiss)'s take on I Wanna Shout. I'm gonna go rogue here (I know, not unusual) but I have no interest in ANY Hollies covers, won't even listen to them, ( tin hat firmly on...!!) Not even the Everlys?
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Aug 25, 2020 15:39:37 GMT
Yeah, just heard Wicked Lester's "I Wanna Shout"...As I was a Kiss stan at the age of 14 (proud owner of the Kiss comic and Paul Stanley's solo album...she said, with great embarrassment) so I guess my entire life makes sense now.
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on Aug 25, 2020 15:54:15 GMT
I'm gonna go rogue here (I know, not unusual) but I have no interest in ANY Hollies covers, won't even listen to them, ( tin hat firmly on...!!) Not even the Everlys? I did think about the Everlys and that's a good point but i've never got round to listening to '2 yanks' can imagine that could be the exception to my rule...
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Aug 25, 2020 16:07:15 GMT
I did think about the Everlys and that's a good point but i've never got round to listening to '2 yanks' can imagine that could be the exception to my rule... LISTEN TONY! I DARE YOU! MWAHAHAHA...You KNOW you want to!!
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Aug 25, 2020 16:45:16 GMT
Going to force feed you "So Lonely" at the very least, Tony. You're welcome! xx
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 17:28:31 GMT
'Two Yanks In England' actually included the first released versions of 'Have You Ever Loved Somebody' and 'Like Every Time Before', so they're not really "covers". A superb album.
Sung solo by Phil, the latter was probably not recorded/released by The Hollies in this form as it sounds a little too like 'Tell Me To My Face':
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 17:30:38 GMT
This features Jimmy Page on lead guitar - after asking Tony Hicks how he got the sound on The Hollies' version!
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on Aug 25, 2020 18:17:38 GMT
I did think about the Everlys and that's a good point but i've never got round to listening to '2 yanks' can imagine that could be the exception to my rule... LISTEN TONY! I DARE YOU! MWAHAHAHA...You KNOW you want to!! Maybe later.......
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Post by cameron on Aug 25, 2020 18:32:48 GMT
I think the fact that no cover of any Hollies song ever comes even CLOSE to the Hollies' original speaks volumes about the Hollies' talents. I actually enjoy hearing the different renditions, I really liked the compilation that came out a few years ago of Hollies covers and related tracks, such as the Hollies' co-written and co-produced tracks like the Lee Kings' 'Coming From The Ground', which is a MUST listen for a Hollies related rarity. As for the Everly Brothers, 'Two Yanks In England' is a fine album. I particularly like their softer take on 'Hard Hard Year', though on the whole, their versions don't come close to the Hollies', although the Hollies versions would come later in many cases. My favourite track on that album is actually their opener 'Somebody Help Me'. As for Hollies songs by other artists, a big exception is Kenny Lynch, who co-wrote a lot of the Hollies' early 70s material with Tony Hicks. His version of 'A Better Place' is vastly superior to the Hollies' version, which benefits from the incognito Hollies backing him on the recording and features an absolutely superb electric sitar solo from Tony Hicks. None of the Kenny Lynch/Hollies tracks have ever been issued on CD, so I compiled a video for YouTube with them on, which I think even Tony Wilkinson will enjoy!
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on Aug 25, 2020 18:40:38 GMT
I think the fact that no cover of any Hollies song ever comes even CLOSE to the Hollies' original speaks volumes about the Hollies' talents. I actually enjoy hearing the different renditions, I really liked the compilation that came out a few years ago of Hollies covers and related tracks, such as the Hollies' co-written and co-produced tracks like the Lee Kings' 'Coming From The Ground', which is a MUST listen for a Hollies related rarity. As for the Everly Brothers, 'Two Yanks In England' is a fine album. I particularly like their softer take on 'Hard Hard Year', though on the whole, their versions don't come close to the Hollies', although the Hollies versions would come later in many cases. My favourite track on that album is actually their opener 'Somebody Help Me'. As for Hollies songs by other artists, a big exception is Kenny Lynch, who co-wrote a lot of the Hollies' early 70s material with Tony Hicks. His version of 'A Better Place' is vastly superior to the Hollies' version, which benefits from the incognito Hollies backing him on the recording and features an absolutely superb electric sitar solo from Tony Hicks. None of the Kenny Lynch/Hollies tracks have ever been issued on CD, so I compiled a video for YouTube with them on, which I think even Tony Wilkinson will enjoy! I did listen to Roger Daltrey's 'Say it ain't so' once and really enjoyed it, does that give me any brownie points...?
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Post by thejanitor on Aug 26, 2020 0:32:24 GMT
Hopefully this isn't too much of a derail, but Tony Rivers seems like a cool guy - listened to a 1974 BBC radio doc on The Beach Boys a few months ago where he was interviewed and tells some fun stories about hanging around with them in London while they were there on tour. Also, he and his group The Castaways were one of the first to cover "God Only Knows" after it came out and it's a pretty good rendition of you ask me. To tie it to The Hollies, is it me or does he sound surprisingly a lot like Graham singing here? What "God Only Knows" might've sounded like on FCB maybe? 😏
Okay, back on topic. Forgive me, but I was having an Everly Bros. binge recently and committed a sacrilege by completely missing out Two Yanks which I STILL haven't listened to. This thread just reminded me!😮 Might find it later and report back in another post before everyone here starts pelting tomatoes at me... 😏
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Post by thejanitor on Aug 26, 2020 12:59:57 GMT
I'm back 😁 upon first listen, my two favourites from the album penned by our Hollies are Don't Run and Hide and I've Been Wrong Before but I also quite like Kiss Your Man Goodbye. The rest of the album is pretty good but I'd need to listen to it more to get into it. I definitely already rank it above the album Phil and Don released afterwards (The Hit Sound which is mostly a mediocre selection of covers imo), but below their excellent last two for Warner Brothers (Sing and Roots), two RCA albums and some of the singles and other loose recordings they did between 1967-72. As you can probably tell, I'm a big fan of the later period Everlys. 😊
Also I notice Glen Campbell and James Burton are listed as session guitarists and a few other Wrecking Crew names appear in the description of some tracks on YouTube - Is this an error, because I thought only Tony and Jimmy Page were responsible for guitar on this album, plus Elton/Reggie Dwight is nowhere to be seen credited for keyboards. I remember scrolling through some old threads here and there was one being about whether Glen had worked with The Hollies after it was mentioned in an obituary for him. If he was on the Two Yanks album playing on the Ransford tracks, then I imagine he might have been instructed by Tony on what to play possibly.
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Aug 26, 2020 14:33:08 GMT
I'm back 😁 upon first listen, my two favourites from the album penned by our Hollies are Don't Run and Hide and I've Been Wrong Before but I also quite like Kiss Your Man Goodbye. The rest of the album is pretty good but I'd need to listen to it more to get into it. I definitely already rank it above the album Phil and Don released afterwards (The Hit Sound which is mostly a mediocre selection of covers imo), but below their excellent last two for Warner Brothers (Sing and Roots), two RCA albums and some of the singles and other loose recordings they did between 1967-72. As you can probably tell, I'm a big fan of the later period Everlys. 😊 Also I notice Glen Campbell and James Burton are listed as session guitarists and a few other Wrecking Crew names appear in the description of some tracks on YouTube - Is this an error, because I thought only Tony and Jimmy Page were responsible for guitar on this album, plus Elton/Reggie Dwight is nowhere to be seen credited for keyboards. I remember scrolling through some old threads here and there was one being about whether Glen had worked with The Hollies after it was mentioned in an obituary for him. If he was on the Two Yanks album playing on the Ransford tracks, then I imagine he might have been instructed by Tony on what to play possibly. My favourite Everlys is mid- to late-60s era. Like the Hollies, always releasing quality stuff that few were listening to. I found the weakest cuts on Two Yanks were the British Invasion covers of the other acts. Pretty Flamingo and Somebody Help Me didn't do it for me really. My favourites were the Hollies cuts (although I'm not in love with Fifi The Flea by anybody, and I prefer the Hollies' version of Like Every Time Before rather than this "Tell Me To My Face" arrangement), but also the Sonny Curtis song, The Collector, which is one of my all-time favourite Everlys tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 9:15:57 GMT
Checking a list of The Everly Brothers recording sessions reveals that only 6 of the 12 songs were recorded in the UK... interestingly, 2 Hollies compositions were taped in Hollywood, presumably without the presence of Allan, Graham and Tony (note also that The Hollies recorded 'Don't Run and Hide' 3 days after The Everly Brothers' version).
14 May 1966 [no.661058] Decca Studio, 165 Broadhurst Gardens, West Hampstead, London NW6, UK - Everly Bothers (Jimmy Page [gt], John Paul Jones [bass], Andy White [drums], Arthur Greenslade [keyboards]. Producer: Dick Glasser) 243 JA 15143 DON'T RUN AND HIDE 244 JA 15144 HAVE YOU EVER LOVED SOMEBODY 245 JA 15145 FIFI THE FLEA 246 JA 15146 HARD HARD YEAR 247 JA 15147 LIKE EVERYTIME BEFORE 248 JA 15148 SIGNS THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE
2 June 1966 [no. 661058, 16:00-19:00/20:00-23:00] United Recording Corporation Studios, 6050 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, CA – Everly Brothers (James Burton [gt], Glen Campbell [gt], Al Casey [gt], Don Lanier [gt], Jay Lacy [gt], Terry Slater [bass], Jim Gordon [drums], Larry Knechtel /Don Randi [keyboards], Bill Liebert [organ]. Producer: Dick Glasser) [overdub session: June 3) 249 J 15246 THE COLLECTOR 250 J 15247 SO LONELY 251 J 15248 I‘VE BEEN WRONG BEFORE 252 J 15157 KISS YOUR MAN GOODBYE
3 June 1966 [no. 661058, 19:00-22:00/22:00-23:00] United Recording Corporation Studios, 6050 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, CA – Everly Brothers (James Burton [gt], Glen Campbell [gt], Bud Coleman [gt], Don Lanier [gt], Jay Lacy [gt], Terry Slater [bass], Leslie Milton [drums], Don Randi [keyboards], Bill Liebert [organ]. Producer: Dick Glasser) 253 J 15249 PRETTY FLAMINGO 254 J 15250 SOMEBODY HELP ME
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Post by Mevrouw Bee on Sept 1, 2020 16:09:13 GMT
So why so many guitars for the Hollywood sessions? One for each note?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 16:45:14 GMT
So why so many guitars for the Hollywood sessions? One for each note? 5 x American session guitarists = 1 x Tony Hicks or Jimmy Page!
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Post by Malc on Sept 1, 2020 19:33:11 GMT
That 14th of May date is highly questionable as the Ev's reportedly called the Hollies to ask for their help on the evening of their Palladium show (according to both Allan and Graham) - which took place on Sunday May 15th, one day AFTER the supposed session ?! Or was the Palladium broadcast aired one week AFTER the actual event ??
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Post by Malc on Sept 2, 2020 5:37:54 GMT
Sadly, it appears (as we all know too well) 1960s session dates are notorious for being 'slightly off' when it come to accuracy. All it takes is one incorrect session log to then become accepted over the ensuing 50 years and become 'the official story'. Then again, the human memory can be as much to blame for historical innaccuracies so maybe the Palladium story isn't quite as true as it happened, and possibly the legendary phone call from Phil to Allan (or Graham - as he too has claimed to have been the recipient at various stages) wasn't even on the backstage Palladium line ? Who knows ? Maybe it was backstage at some less-prestigious venue in the far outer reaches the UK ? Mind you, the accepted tale sits nicely with the legend so I guess its probably just left with a question mark hovering above it for now... frustrating as it is for music historians ! And to add a sideline into the story - and to tie it neatly into the original thread - Allan has often made it sound like this was the first true meeting between the Ev's and themselves (the earlier pre-Hollies encounter excluded). Not so it seems for Allan and Graham are supposedly responsible for introducing Tony Rivers to the Everly's, at the East Ham Granada in London on 25th October 1965, during the brothers UK tour that year (so Tony told me a while back).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 7:17:20 GMT
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Post by Malc on Sept 2, 2020 7:49:49 GMT
Interesting. I wonder in what circumstances they met...
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