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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 19:58:28 GMT
Does anyone have a list of which Swinging Blue Jeans songs Terry Sylvester sings lead on? I'm pretty sure it's him on this one:
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Post by stuball on Feb 5, 2014 0:29:42 GMT
Peter, I can't give you a complete list, but this is at least a good start:
From the Swinging Blue Jeans' LP that was recorded in the wake of the minor success of 'Don't Make Me Over', came 4 songs that featured new boy Terry Sylvester on lead vocals. In addition to the aforementioned 'Gotta Draw The Line', there was a good cover of Rufus Thomas' 'Jump Back', as well as a sparkling version of The Lovin' Spoonful's 'Do You Believe In Magic'. Another catchy Sylvester-sung tune was the rocker 'Nobody But Me'. This album saw the light of day solely in Canada in spring '66, and then only for a very brief time.
Sylvester also saw lead vocal duties on the A-side of the first single The Jeans released after Terry's arrival: the ballad 'Sandy'. After that 45 and the above LP, only a few desultory non-hit singles were released by the group until Terry's departure. I believe Ray Ennis sang lead on all of these, although I think Sylvester may have taken a b-side. Besides that, I'm sure there may be the odd unreleased studio track kicking around today.
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Post by Stranger on Feb 5, 2014 10:29:26 GMT
I think the At Abbey Road compilation might be the place to start. I'm sure forum member DistantLight knows about late era Swinging Blue Jeans recordings?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 12:26:22 GMT
Peter, I can't give you a complete list, but this is at least a good start: From the Swinging Blue Jeans' LP that was recorded in the wake of the minor success of 'Don't Make Me Over', came 4 songs that featured new boy Terry Sylvester on lead vocals. In addition to the aforementioned 'Gotta Draw The Line', there was a good cover of Rufus Thomas' 'Jump Back', as well as a sparkling version of The Lovin' Spoonful's 'Do You Believe In Magic'. Another catchy Sylvester-sung tune was the rocker 'Nobody But Me'. This album saw the light of day solely in Canada in spring '66, and then only for a very brief time. Sylvester also saw lead vocal duties on the A-side of the first single The Jeans released after Terry's arrival: the ballad 'Sandy'. After that 45 and the above LP, only a few desultory non-hit singles were released by the group until Terry's departure. I believe Ray Ennis sang lead on all of these, although I think Sylvester may have taken a b-side. Besides that, I'm sure there may be the odd unreleased studio track kicking around today. Thank you. I did recognise him on 'Sandy' and 'Do You Believe In Magic', but wasn't sure about the others. Shame that no pre-Hollies footage of Terry seems to exist (or at least circulate), either with The Escorts or The Swinging Blue Jeans.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 16:49:18 GMT
I think the At Abbey Road compilation might be the place to start. Great collection, listen to it below (I do also have the boxset from a couple of years back, albeit only as mp3s):
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Post by dirtyfaz on Feb 5, 2014 23:02:51 GMT
That set was a 4 CD set called Good Golly Miss Molly! (The EMI Years) (had to be from 2008 or thereabouts) and contained over 110 songs on it including mono and stereo version where available. Unfortunately I only have this on MP3 as well.
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Post by distantlight on Feb 11, 2014 8:07:46 GMT
Yes - the At Abbey Road CD is the place to start but on the 4 CD set there are some overlooked gems as well.
Apart from those LP tracks and "Sandy" Terry sang lead on:
Our Day Will Come, previously unreleased, 1966 I Made A Mistake, previously unreleased 1967 Gotta Draw The Line (Sidney), 1967 version It's Alright, previously unreleased, 1967
And in their later years they became quite a good harmony group. Not as perfect as the Hollies but they tried and it's quite interesting to hear. "Painting The Day" is my favourite from that era. But you can hear Terry's harmonies on most tracks since he joined. "Now The Summer's Gone" is another song sung in full harmony.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 9:30:53 GMT
Yes - the At Abbey Road CD is the place to start but on the 4 CD set there are some overlooked gems as well. Apart from those LP tracks and "Sandy" Terry sang lead on: Our Day Will Come, previously unreleased, 1966 I Made A Mistake, previously unreleased 1967 Gotta Draw The Line (Sidney), 1967 version It's Alright, previously unreleased, 1967 And in their later years they became quite a good harmony group. Not as perfect as the Hollies but they tried and it's quite interesting to hear. "Painting The Day" is my favourite from that era. But you can hear Terry's harmonies on most tracks since he joined. "Now The Summer's Gone" is another song sung in full harmony. Thank you. The pre-Terry Swinging Blue Jeans are actually my 2nd favourite Merseybeat group, but I agree that their Terry-era stuff is more than worthwhile also.
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Post by stuball on Feb 11, 2014 19:47:47 GMT
Yes, the harmonies improved dramatically after Terry's arrival, but their entire sound expanded in '67 with the arrival of former Escort and Terry pal Mike Gregory, who in addition to being a fine bass player, added another strong harmony voice. This move also allowed big Les Braid to switch to keyboards. Shame this lineup failed to score any hits, as there was nothing wrong with their updated sound at the time.
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Post by distantlight on Feb 15, 2014 9:50:54 GMT
Another album from the Swinging Blue Jeans with both Terry and Mike would have been nice because there are not that many recordings with that lineup. And the ones we have are really good.
Talking about Mersey Beat... another pretty good and half forgotten group were "Ian & The Zodiacs". They were more popular in Germany and their recordings are mostly from a slightly later date (65, 66) and have more of a garage, vaguely psychedelic feel with a soul edge. Their records sound really good and they have some nice guitar and organ work.
My second favorite band from Liverpool will always be "Gerry & The Pacemakers", though. After the Beatles and the Rolling Stones the third 60s group I ever listened to and I still think they were a great band. And Gerry Marsden was quite a good songwriter, too for a short time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 10:41:17 GMT
My second favorite band from Liverpool will always be "Gerry & The Pacemakers", though. After the Beatles and the Rolling Stones the third 60s group I ever listened to and I still think they were a great band. And Gerry Marsden was quite a good songwriter, too for a short time. I do have a soft spot for Gerry & The Pacemakers too. Unfortunately they were unable to develop musically (most of their 1966 recordings sound like they were made in 1963!). One group I have very mixed emotions over are The Searchers. They were excellent on softer material, but when they tried tough rhythm 'n' blues / rock 'n' roll they were often embarassingly wimpy.
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Post by distantlight on Feb 16, 2014 2:20:16 GMT
Both true! Although Gerry tried on some of the later material and on some of the solo stuff - at least from the bits I've heard. Anyone heard some of his 70s singles? They seem impossible to find. But I agree that they didn't really have an idea what to do after 1965. Although I like a couple of those corny late period singles (e.g. "La La La" or "Girl On A Swing").
The Searchers were indeed wimpy on most of the rockier material. From memory I think "Twist And Shout" (and/or "Money" for that matter) is/are the lamest of them all. Especially compared to those Lennon scream fests they sound ridiculous. Their late 70s power pop albums are pretty good, though if you like that kind of stuff! And they had a couple of nice early 70s singles, too.
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