well here's some news to cheer you up - the first ever Hollies vinyl LP to be featured as part of the annual Record Store Day celebrations.
It's called "Shake With The Hollies" and features 18 tracks recorded at the BBC prior to 1966:
side one : 1. I Can't Let Go* (Gorgoni/Taylor) 2. Set Me Free* (Ransford) 3. Don't Even Think About Changin' * (Clarke/Hicks/Nash) 4. We're Through (Ransford) 5. Yes I Will Goffin/Titelman) 6. Mickey's Monkey (Holland/Dozier/Holland) 7. You Know He Did (Ransford) 8. Shake (Cooke) 9. Interview
side two 1. We're Through (Ransford) 2. Rockin' Robin (Thomas) 3. Just One Look (Payne/Carroll) 4. Too Much Monkey Business (Berry) 5. I'm Alive (Ballard Jr) 6. Just One Look (Payne/Carroll) 7. Roll Over Beethoven (Berry) 8. Reelin' And Rockin' (Berry) 9. Interview
I am however dubious of the quality or authority of this issue, as a similar Kinks LP was issued last year using poor quality masters from YouTube! Either way, I'll be making sure I get a copy.
Thanks Cam - was just about to post this myself. This release looks as bogus as hell. Most of the tracks appear to be the same as those on previous CD bootlegs from many years ago (Hollie Days, Manchester Express) plus some BBC transcription discs - surely this has not been approved by either the band or the BBC.
That said, it will probably become super rare from the get go so if you are one of those Hollies fans that HAS to have everything, I'd be queueing up at your nearest (UK) dealer involved. There are plenty of Aussie record shops involved with Record Store Day but none are listed on the site.
That sounds suspicious. The releases haven't been shipped out to record stores yet. And the one that's on eBay says you'll be refunded if it's not released. It's missing from the official list - both from RSD themselves and the printed ones they've sent to record shops.
It was originally on the Record Store Day list, then disappeared for awhile, and now it has reappeared. All I know is I can't wait to get my hands on it. "Shake With The Hollies" will be the first album on vinyl of 1960s live performances. Cause for celebration.
Well it's exciting news if it goes ahead. BUT, there was a similar release last year by the Kinks that was entirely sourced from Bootlegs and YouTube. I doubt they've got their hands on the original BBC Transcription discs to create a master to press from. Having said that, it's not impossible to get CD copies of the transcription discs, so I could be wrong. Either way, I'm not getting my hopes up but I'll still buy a copy.
Right you are, several websites are now listing it, with a provisional price of £19.99 in two cases I've found. Unfortunately I'm on holiday on RSD this year, so won't be queuing up outside a shop at 6am for my copy! But no doubt some shops will have leftovers and it'll inevitably hit eBay in the next few weeks. Many of the 2016 RSD releases I missed out on are still easily available on eBay, and some were even for sale in my local Fopp Records shop, which is like an outlet for HMV but slightly cheaper.
Those of us who have experienced Record Store Day previously have bought into the mad rush to get the records, but, yes, there usually are plenty of leftovers. The only record I missed out on that I wanted was The Zombies' first US album, but the store I went to simply didn't get any. Not all stores have all of the stock on hand.
Melbourne has the best collection of record stores in Australia - much better than Sydney - and has more stores participating than the rest of the country combined. Rang 7 shops today and only one confirmed they hold any copies - they ordered two and both arrived. Shops involved complain that Record Store Day orders are frequently not delivered so it's nice to know that a couple of copies have definitely entered the country. Anyone know the number of copies pressed? 1000?
Still can't believe this release got over the line. I notice there are other dodgy discs like a Byrds release with audio pulled from two US 1960s music TV shows Shindig and Hullabaloo, plus Small Faces 7" with audio grabbed from Beat Beat Beat German TV.
I can't believe I finally have a copy of this in my hands! It seems like it was never going to happen...
The sleeve is an authentic styled 1960s sleeve with flip-backs on the back. The rear of the sleeve especially resembles an early Parlophone LP, complete with 'Emitex' logo though all references to Parlophone have been changed to "Rhythm And Blues", which is the name of the label that pressed the LP. It's 180g vinyl, so good quality.
The performances are un-labelled mostly, so here's my educated guess at when they all date from. Indeed, nothing on this LP is from 'Radio Fun'. I've also made an educated guess at their source. I'm hoping someone will correct me on some of these.
1. I Can't Let Go - excellent quality, transcription disc. I don't have a reference to this being from the BBC. They allegedly only performed it once at the BBC on "This Must Be The Place" on 14th January, 1966 (available on "Radio Fun"). This take is different, much more confident, energetic and unusually featuring a bass solo from Eric Haydock.
2. Set Me Free - excellent quality, transcription disc. From the same 14th January 1966 session as the Radio Fun edition of "I Can't Let Go". It's an energetic version, with lots of harmonica from Allan and great drums from Bobby.
3. Don't Even Think About Changin' - excellent quality, transcription disc. From 28th June, 1966. An unusual album track heard live, several months before it appeared on "For Certain Beacause..."
4. We're Through - excellent quality, transcription disc. The second airing of the track, on 26th January, 1965. Believed to be from "Delaney's Delight". It's a slightly slower version with Allan's double tracked vocals.
5. Yes I Will - excellent quality, transcription disc. From "Top Gear" on 19th February, 1965. Again, Bobby is on fine form with his usual live flourishes that make the track a bit more exciting than the studio version. Tony's jangly guitar can be heard prominently in the mix too.
6. Mickey's Monkey - excellent quality, transcription disc. From the same session as "Yes I Will" on 19th February, 1965. It seems a bit dreary compared to the album version, until you get about half way through and Bobby goes crazy on the instrumental break and it pulls the track right back.
7. You Know He Did - poor quality, home tape recording. I believe this is the take from "The Beatles Invite You To A Ticket To Ride" on 7th June, 1965. It wasn't committed to transcription disc, but several people recorded it at the time due to the Beatles appearing on the show. It's not the best quality copy I've heard from this show.
8. Shake - poor quality, home tape recording. I'm a bit stumped with this one, the LP cover lists the year as 1963. It's certainly different to the BBC transcription (28th June, 1966) version, more echo, not quite as fast and there's screaming/cheering over the end of it. Perhaps it's from Radio Luxembourg?
9. Interview - excellent quality, transcription disc. Brief interview snippet, Graham talks of the countries they've played in and mentions an up-coming tour of America, so it must be from 1965.
1. We're Through - excellent quality, transcription disc. A much more confident take than the previous one on the LP. This one dates from 4th December, 1964 on "Saturday Club".
2. Rockin' Robin - very good quality, from film/tape. From the NME Pollwinners Concert, 26th April, 1964. 3. Just One Look - very good quality, from film/tape. From the NME Pollwinners Concert, 26th April, 1964. 4. Too Much Monkey Business - excellent quality, from film/tape. From the American TV show, "Shindig!" in 1965, I'm unsure of the date. A great rockier version than the LP, with Graham bursting out into the Beatles' "I Feel Fine" to be shouted down by Allan and Tony!
5. I'm Alive - very good quality, from film/tape. Apparently also from "Shindig!" but I think it's actually "Hullabaloo"? I'm not sure, I'm not great with Hollies videos. The screaming is apparent throughout, great performance.
6. Just One Look - good quality, from film/tape. I'm not sure where this one is from, the LP sleeve credits it to "Shindig!", April 1965. It's not quite as good quality as the take of "Too Much Monkey Business", so I believe it's from a different show.
7. Roll Over Beethoven - poor quality, home tape recording. It's not great quality, but historically significant from one of their first appearances at the BBC in very early 1964, though the date/show is unknown.
8. Reelin' And Rockin' - poor quality, home tape recording. I've no idea when and where this is from, probably the same show as "Roll Over Beethoven".
9. Interview - excellent quality, transcription disc. Graham and Allan discussing their success, from "Saturday Club" on 4th December 1964. They introduce "We're Through", which is track one on Side B of this LP.
10. Interview - excellent quality, transcription disc. Tony talks about what the Hollies have been up to and the changing music scene. Dates from 26th January, 1965.
Overall, I definitely recommend this LP for Hollies fans. Even the tracks in "poor" quality are still perfectly listenable. It's interesting, because I believe it to be the first ever Hollies bootleg vinyl? It's all surprisingly good quality for a bootleg. The sleeve especially will sit well between all the Hollies LPs from 1964-1966, a lot of thought has gone into the packaging. Even the record label is a copy of a Parlophone one, with a red "Rhythm And Blues" text replacing the yellow Parlophone logo. The final finishing touch is the text on the spine mimicking that of the original Parlophone LPs; like I said, it sits well on your shelf between "Would You Believe?" and "For Certain Because..."! My only criticisms are the slightly haphazard running order, ie, the Side B track 9 could lead perfectly well into Side B track 1 etc... but it's a minor qualm. Apart from a couple of tracks on Side B having a very slight fade in, all the tracks are in full (which was a major short-coming of "Radio Fun"!) and the record label have obviously put some research into finding the best sources available for these tracks. I'm delighted to be able to buy a NEW Hollies album, especially on vinyl. I hope they do something else for record store day in 2018!
I also bought the two 7" singles from Rhythm And Blues by the Byrds and the Small Faces. Both are terrible, the Byrds on especially is from very questionable sources. The Small Faces one is only marginally better, though in the wrong order. I don't really see the point of having the complete TV performance on vinyl when it's already available on DVD. They did really well with the Hollies release. That said, the packaging again for the two EPs is really good. But the Hollies LP is definitely the one to have out of all of them.
Thanks Cameron for your thoughts. Your review inspired me to crack open my sealed copy - I guess all are sealed? - and have a listen. Well now, what a pleasant surprise! This disc is miles better than I was anticipating. The compilers clearly had an eye on Radio Fun selections and chose to include tracks or versions not found there. As Cam has said, quality is excellent on most of the tracks, majority of which have been sourced from good quality BBC Transcription discs, these days far more prevalent than they were even 5 years ago. I was impressed that the creators had even speed corrected Shake (live on The Joe Loss Pop Show rec: 5 Aug 66) and Reelin & Rockin' (Saturday Club rec: 3 March 64)- rare examples of two tracks taken from somebody recording the original show off air at the time - which are too fast on Hollies CD bootlegs like Hollie Days and Around The World With The Hollies. One quibble - there is some curious sequencing placing two interview tracks at the tail end of Side 2, killing the pace of the set stone dead. It would have been better to sprinkle these amongst the songs or not include them at all. On a vinyl release, I think they should have been left off but included on any accompanying CD issue.
The Shindig live versions sound excellent - I still remember VHS tape trading days with US collectors in the early 1990s when you would trade away something good to get yet another copy of the Hollies' Shindig songs in the hope it was a 1st or 2nd generation tape rather than a 4th generation muddy, blurry mess of muffled sound, picture roll, and static! Ah, the bad old days of collecting. Seriously, Millennials and Gen Z'ers have it so easy these days...assuming they actually collect hard copies anymore. Cam - I think you may be a (welcome) anomaly here!
I have all the information for Hollies BBC tracks and some of the Radio Fun officially noted source information is wrong, which is unhelpful and therefore perpetuates mistakes. I can address all the track info another time but had to mention that The H only ever performed Roll Over Beethoven on the BBC once, and its inclusion here is it (Sat Club 8 July 1963) and....this features Don Rathbone on the skins, not Bobby. Another reason to grab this disc...if you can find it. Copies are flying off eBay at the moment. I can't imagine this thing will be re-pressed - once whatever run of copies has been flogged off, that will be it. And with no CD-equivalent release, this is the only place to 'officially' (ahem) obtain these tracks.
The one thing to note about this (likely) bootleg disc is the mention on the label of 'Recording first published 1966'. As this is a 2017 release and no track included dates from after 1966, the makers may be trying to avoid any issues through the 'copyright expires 50 years after publication' rule, which applies in some (but not all) countries. Nice try though - none of these recordings were published in 1966 in the first place. Copying onto a transcription disc to send outside of the UK does not count as publishing in any legal sense AFAIK. Nevertheless, the whole package is very impressive.
BTW - the cover photo is from a rehearsal on British TV show Ready Steady Go (29 Nov 1963).
So...if you still retain a turntable, love your unheard 60s Hollies and wish to own the very first vinyl Hollies bootleg (spot on again Cameron), Shake With The Hollies is an absolute must-get. You'll even want to play the thing too...!
Thanks for clearing up a few details, Simon. All copies were sealed and I think most will stay sealed! I ripped off my shrinkwrap as soon as it arrived - records are meant to be played and enjoyed! You can still play them lots without damaging them. I was amazed to just hold a copy in my hands after it nearly didn't get released. Indeed, the "Recordings First Published, 1966" is a ploy to get around copyright, which is a very grey area. Allegedly, the BBC own the copyright to their radio recordings, though I think it's a bit much that they deleted all of the tapes 40-50 years ago, had a big nationwide search to get bootlegs back into their archive and are now compiling them on various CD sets and charging people for them! The Hollies' sessions have been freely trading between fans for years, hence why the Radio Fun set was such a big disappointment, as it didn't better anything that most of the hardcore fans already have.
I'm just delighted to have a new Hollies vinyl LP to play! Their last new LP release on vinyl was surely "Definitive Collection" and "Rarities" in 1988? It was a big shock to get 'Evolution' and 'Butterfly' reissued officially last year, though slightly confusing to get both mixes. Other than that, Sundazed issued their U.S. albums again on the Imperial label in 2006(?), but that's it. Though I'm wondering if they caught wind of someone trying to issue Butterfly and Evolution for RSD 2017 for their 50th anniversary and got in there first? It was the first release to sell out in my local shop on RSD, so there's obviously still demand for the group. I wonder if we can suggest a release for 2018 to the band or a suitable label? I think my previous suggestion of a compilation of the Hollies "Flower Power Bit" would sell really well to RSD goers, if such an LP could be created. There seems to always be a very healthy dose of psychedelia on offer on RSD. It might finally put the Hollies on the map for the great band that they were. Also, if "Hollies LTD" have to pay for it themselves, as they've previously done with some things, then they can make it as exclusive as they want for RSD - I think the minimum is something like 1000 copies worldwide?
I received my copy of “Shake With The Hollies” today and played it straight away. I agree with Simon's comment above that this LP “is an absolute must-get”. Cameron provided an excellent overview of the record (see above). The only minor difference of opinion I have with Cameron is that I consider the sound quality of “Roll Over Beethoven” to be better than “poor quality”. The important thing, however, is that it is fantastic to hear this rare recording of ROB (with Don Rathbone on drums).
The songs are very well performed and underpinned by a wonderful youthful energy. The band's instrumental sound of Elliott, Haydock and Hicks is dynamic and coupled with the superb vocals of Clarke, Nash and Hicks, provides a reminder (if ever one was needed) that The Hollies matched it with the best in the 60’s.
The interviews are very brief, but well worth hearing.
Let’s hope there are more Hollies LP’s on the way!
Hearing in particular the Shindig tracks, away from viewing the video of the performances, really proves that The Hollies, once they had laid down a song and released the record, played the song even better live, with an added power and drive. The Hollies were definitely a band that could outshine its own recordings in live performance. This was as true in 1972 as it was in 1965.