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Post by Stranger on Aug 5, 2013 19:17:40 GMT
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Post by gee on Aug 6, 2013 10:53:35 GMT
Should be an interesting read and a snapshot of the sixties & seventies music scene as Graham 'knew' so many famous people !
Obviously we must expect alot of coverage of his CSN (& Y) years and relationships as the vast bulk of his life has been Stateside
that said, at least he now has a far better 'balanced view' of his full musical career and has given far more positive acknowledgment to his 'Hollie days'
- once by his own admission, in the seventies, he intentionally 'distanced himself' from his earlier Hollies association, (as did each of the four ex-Beatles in the seventies from their group !) and possibly back then due to some misguided music people (UK and USA) constantly 'belittling' The Hollies as a 'mere pop group' Nash often found himself - wrongly - embarressed by his earlier and then seen as supposedly 'simplistic' sixties pop career with The Hollies (something guys like say Manfred Mann and Stevie Marriott etc later felt by 1969 too) where as being an ex-Byrd or ex-Springfield was then seen as far more 'cool' - even tho' The Hollies had more hits worldwide than all of them - CSN(&Y), Byrds, Springfield, & solo careers all put together !
we can argue that Nash should have defended his old band more, but after being 'worn out' by the rejection of his new songs, constantly having to 'turn on the professional happy face' to his public, and frankly 'hitting a brick wall' on occasions - as Terry Sylvester later would similarly do - and being told to 'remain in your segment of the pop dartboard' etc....Nash was back then only too glad to spread his 'wings', and 'flutterby'....'away away away' !
At least the situation has changed now, with The Hollies now inducted into the R & R Hall of fame and given long overdue deeper critical appreciation & respect and Nash can boast of being a 'double inductee' like C,S, & Y so now Graham can take a better perspective on his full musical career and not be 'shy' about any part of it...!
Nash hopefully will speak of his other pursuits too such as his art, photography, and graphic work (all successful) & his charity work
we should NOT be surprised at any frankness by Graham re where he may have felt The Hollies or David Crosby etc 'went wrong' - I saw him on a 'L.A. Music scene' show where he spoke of how 'downhill' the scene later went re drugs, music biz problems, & political issues etc...
tho' publishers may 'clean up' things a bit, we shall see, whatever it should be an interesting read..
I wonder when Terry Sylvester's 'tell all' book will be out....?
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Post by Stranger on Aug 6, 2013 19:09:08 GMT
I wonder when Terry Sylvester's 'tell all' book will be out....? Terry just took another swipe at Graham on Twitter about Graham's book coming out but didn't mention his own proposed book, so, maybe it isn't going ahead. |
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Post by gee on Aug 7, 2013 9:14:04 GMT
Terry took 'another swipe at Graham' on Twitter....?
Gasp ! - must be a 'Y' in the day....!!!
Sorry but I have 'given up' on Terry Sylvester now - and I was a VERY big admirer of the guy who was the prominent 'second generation' Mersybeat musician, then MAJOR figurehead in The Hollies from 1969 to 1981, then partner of the late great Jimmy Griffin & soloist...
It's NO co-incidence BOTH Nash & Sylvester 'walked' from the group in 1968 and 1981 after each had a number of 'issues' a major part of which was frustration re the band being 'too set in their ways' and reluctant to spread their wings & fly when they were so clearly more than capable of doing so...
so I was very much an admirer of Terry, I loved his music (still do) when he was in his prime, his voice was magnificent, his pivotal role in 'keeping The Hollies at the top' after Nash departed, and being a key figurehead in 'The Rickfors Hollies' period, plus his adding another solo balladeer (as Nash had) to the band....and pulling Clarke & Hicks (back) together as songwriters (again as Nash had earlier done) in the seventies all made him such a very special and important figure in The Hollies story to me....
BUT he sadly seems to have become an 'embittered old man' now - per his endless Twitter rants, oddly aimed chiefly at Graham Nash (someone who was NOT ever in the group during his era or when Terry 'walked' after having his ongoing issues with the three 'senior' members of the band come to a head around May 1981...)
IF his rants at Nash are still due to his being upset at allegedly being 'snubbed' by Nash at the R & R Hall of Fame induction show in the songs performance back in 2010 (some three years ago now) then that is simply SAD and Terry really needs to put it behind him and move forward in his life...
Anyway, I very much doubt Terry will get anything more than a couple of the briefest of mentions in Nash's book probably as merely being his replacement in The Hollies from January 1969 & later a fellow R & R Hall of Fame inductee in 2010....
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Post by sass e frass on Aug 8, 2013 18:35:23 GMT
The review for Graham's new book on Amazon:
From Graham Nash—the legendary musician and founding member of the iconic bands Crosby, Stills & Nash and The Hollies—comes a candid and riveting autobiography that belongs on the reading list of every classic rock fan.
Graham Nash's songs defined a generation and helped shape the history of rock and roll—he’s written over 200 songs, including such classic hits as "Carrie Anne," “On A Carousel,” "Simple Man," "Our House," “Marrakesh Express,” and "Teach Your Children." From the opening salvos of the British Rock Revolution to the last shudders of Woodstock, he has rocked and rolled wherever music mattered. Now Graham is ready to tell his story: his lower-class childhood in post-war England, his early days in the British Invasion group The Hollies; becoming the lover and muse of Joni Mitchell during the halcyon years, when both produced their most introspective and important work; meeting Stephen Stills and David Crosby and reaching superstardom with Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young; and his enduring career as a solo musician and political activist. Nash has valuable insights into a world and time many think they know from the outside but few have experienced at its epicenter, and equally wonderful anecdotes about the people around him: the Beatles, the Stones, Hendrix, Cass Elliot, Dylan, and other rock luminaries. From London to Laurel Canyon and beyond, Wild Tales is a revealing look back at an extraordinary life—with all the highs and the lows; the love, the sex, and the jealousy; the politics; the drugs; the insanity—and the sanity—of a magical era of music.
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Post by scousette on Aug 10, 2013 1:20:46 GMT
I'm looking forward to reading Graham's book. I hope he does a book tour.
He'll be in San Francisco on August 24 at a reception for an exhibit of his photographs and paintings. Yes, I'm going!
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Post by stuball on Aug 10, 2013 21:52:23 GMT
The Nash/Sylvester brouhaha has become tedious, it's old hat and likely never to be resolved, so the less said the better.
As far as Graham's book is concerned, before deciding to buy I think I'll go directly to the index and see how many times The Hollies are mentioned. Not so much interested in his post-Hollies career, but I must admit I'm more than curious about his early days in Manchester, and especially about his early band days in the pre-Hollies era. Not a lot has been said about his embryonic musical career. I just hope the editors don't cut this period to a bare minimum, in favour of the more high-profile CSN story, which has already received saturation coverage throughout the years.
Could be a fascinating book as long as there's some meat in the 1942 through '68 years.
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Post by knut on Aug 12, 2013 16:22:35 GMT
The Hollies years is a major part of the book.
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Post by stuball on Aug 12, 2013 18:24:52 GMT
Good to hear, Knut. I take it you've already perused an advance copy. Lucky you!
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Post by scousette on Aug 12, 2013 21:31:15 GMT
"The new season of free concerts and events at the Library of Congress will begin with a lecture by Graham Nash next month, and include concerts by Rosanne Cash and Randy Newman in its diverse lineup, the LOC announced Aug. 12.
"Graham Nash, founding member of Crosby, Stills & Nash and The Hollies, speaks about his new autobiography "Wild Tales: A Rock and Roll Life" at 7 p.m. Sept. 6 at the James Madison Building. There will be an opportunity at the lecture to purchase the book a day before its official release, the Library said."
www.examiner.com/article/shows-by-graham-nash-randy-newman-among-free-2013-14-library-of-congress-events |
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Post by littlelover on Aug 13, 2013 2:13:07 GMT
I'm looking forward to reading Graham's book. I hope he does a book tour. He'll be in San Francisco on August 24 at a reception for an exhibit of his photographs and paintings. Yes, I'm going! Lucky Scouser! |
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Post by scousette on Aug 13, 2013 16:06:33 GMT
I'm looking forward to reading Graham's book. I hope he does a book tour. He'll be in San Francisco on August 24 at a reception for an exhibit of his photographs and paintings. Yes, I'm going! Lucky Scouser! Thanks! Well, I hope I can go. I've just been notified that I'm on the waiting list due to the overwhelming response. They are giving first priority to people who have previously bought stuff from their gallery and those who are ordering Graham's prints on their website. At a starting price of $1500 for Graham's photos I'm hoping that I can be one of those on the waiting list that is admitted. |
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Post by Stranger on Sept 5, 2013 17:08:23 GMT
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Post by stuball on Sept 6, 2013 16:31:35 GMT
The New York Daily News feature certainly seemed to take a prurient interest on the sex and drug aspects of Wild Tales. Whether or not Graham's account wallows heavily in this area remains to be seen. I suppose when it comes to CSN & Y, drugs and licentious behaviour, along with the endless infighting, comes with the territory. I do expect however, when it comes to The Hollies, the primary focus will be on the musicians and the music, with the more salacious aspects played down. Here's hoping.
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Post by roots66 on Sept 7, 2013 9:04:41 GMT
Check your local bookstore shelves now, you may be surprised to find copies of the tome already there, as I did last night! Haven't seen any lewd, lascivious, salacious, OUTRAGEOUS stuff yet, but granted all I've done so far is flip to the Tony-related pages as per the index (while waiting for Patti Smith to go on). I did read some anecdotes I haven't heard before in Hollies lore, so the book has already exceeded my expectations there! However, no rare and unusual photos from the H. era...phooey. |
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Post by Gralto on Sept 9, 2013 14:06:28 GMT
Check your local bookstore shelves now, you may be surprised to find copies of the tome already there, as I did last night! Haven't seen any lewd, lascivious, salacious, OUTRAGEOUS stuff yet, but granted all I've done so far is flip to the Tony-related pages as per the index (while waiting for Patti Smith to go on). I did read some anecdotes I haven't heard before in Hollies lore, so the book has already exceeded my expectations there! However, no rare and unusual photos from the H. era...phooey. As I've yet to see the book, finished reading it yet Ms C? Care to write an expansive review for EO? In the two occasions I've been fortunate enough to speak with Graham Nash face to face, I've continually been impressed by his candour. That said, I think he is far more likely to speak his heart about the guys he know can handle it (the North Americans - Crosby, Stills, Young - the guys he knows the best) than his English 60s contingent who he remains cordial but not close to (Clarke the exception). But...I look forward to being surprised. I do know that Graham's archive (picture and sound) is extensive from the CSN days on but extremely limited from his Hollies days. When I asked him if he wrote any diaries in the 60s, he said "nope, and I regret it every single day". Regardless, I'm really looking forward to grabbing a copy. |
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Post by roots66 on Sept 9, 2013 17:24:19 GMT
As I've yet to see the book, finished reading it yet Ms C? Care to write an expansive review for EO? I thought you'd never ask! So far, I've read just the "youth/Hollies years" section, which as Knut suggested, takes up a solid and respectable third of the book (the first seven chapters). I don't want to spoil things for people who prefer to remain surprised, so I won't go into too many specifics, just a few general impressions. Let's just say he goes further than I expected him to do (seriously, I figured there would be maybe a couple of chapters on the H. at best), but not far enough for the fanatic. Lovely, evocative writing about Northern England and its burgeoning rock scene in general. While there are lots of anecdotes I hadn't heard of before, there are also plenty of the usual yarns that we know aren't 100% accurate, they're just how Nashie chooses to recall them. (Like the first meeting with a "so-called songwriter, a 15-year-old Jewish kid" named Graham Gouldman, told almost identically to the way he tells it on the DVD.) Some recording session recollections are told in fine detail, others are left out altogether...I don't think he mentioned our revered "Evolution" at all! Some insight into the dynamics of his relationship with Allan, but not quite as much as I was hoping for. Makes fun of Tony a few times, but also effusively praises his musical instincts and skill. Candid tell-all style one minute, then doesn't identify John Sebastian's 1st wife the next (inspiration for "Right Between the Eyes" and "Lady of the Island").
Overall, it's not our ideal Hollies biography, but nevertheless it's well-written, a lot of fun, and I'm enjoying it immensely. |
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Post by Gralto on Sept 10, 2013 13:47:21 GMT
As I've yet to see the book, finished reading it yet Ms C? Care to write an expansive review for EO? I thought you'd never ask! So far, I've read just the "youth/Hollies years" section, which as Knut suggested, takes up a solid and respectable third of the book (the first seven chapters). I don't want to spoil things for people who prefer to remain surprised, so I won't go into too many specifics, just a few general impressions. Let's just say he goes further than I expected him to do (seriously, I figured there would be maybe a couple of chapters on the H. at best), but not far enough for the fanatic. Lovely, evocative writing about Northern England and its burgeoning rock scene in general. While there are lots of anecdotes I hadn't heard of before, there are also plenty of the usual yarns that we know aren't 100% accurate, they're just how Nashie chooses to recall them. (Like the first meeting with a "so-called songwriter, a 15-year-old Jewish kid" named Graham Gouldman, told almost identically to the way he tells it on the DVD.) Some recording session recollections are told in fine detail, others are left out altogether...I don't think he mentioned our revered "Evolution" at all! Some insight into the dynamics of his relationship with Allan, but not quite as much as I was hoping for. Makes fun of Tony a few times, but also effusively praises his musical instincts and skill. Candid tell-all style one minute, then doesn't identify John Sebastian's 1st wife the next (inspiration for "Right Between the Eyes" and "Lady of the Island").
Overall, it's not our ideal Hollies biography, but nevertheless it's well-written, a lot of fun, and I'm enjoying it immensely. Excellent - thanks for this. I assume he mentions being with Hendrix and Brian Jones at Royal Albert Hall in 1968? This was a noteworthy drug-related yarn he's mentioned to me twice, that I felt was sure to be included in any official tome penned by him. I did ask him if he played onstage at The Scene club, in NYC with Hendrix in 1968, as listed in some www sites in the past, but he had no recollection of that at all. Anyway...thanks for not spoiling - time to hunt out a copy! |
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Post by roots66 on Sept 10, 2013 15:24:46 GMT
Excellent - thanks for this. I assume he mentions being with Hendrix and Brian Jones at Royal Albert Hall in 1968? This was a noteworthy drug-related yarn he's mentioned to me twice, that I felt was sure to be included in any official tome penned by him. I did ask him if he played onstage at The Scene club, in NYC with Hendrix in 1968, as listed in some www sites in the past, but he had no recollection of that at all. Anyway...thanks for not spoiling - time to hunt out a copy! Er, no! Pity, that's one story I'd have liked to see in there. Only mentions Jones when he talked about his and Allan's participation in the "Not Fade Away" session, and a few mentions of Hendrix here and there, but no major descriptions of their encounters. |
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Post by stuball on Sept 11, 2013 19:44:34 GMT
Just read the limited free preview of 'Wild Tales' on Amazon.com, and although it was limited to parts of the first two chapters, the books appears to be a good fast read and quite fascinating. Lots of photos, although nothing too exciting there. I persevered through the index and although Allan, Tony, Bobby, Eric and Bernie have multiple entries, Terry Sylvester receives no mention. I suppose that's no surprise, although I'll admit I thought his name may have come up re The Hollies' Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame induction. I'd be curious to hear Graham's take on that evening's proceedings. Perhaps Graham thought 'discretion was the better part of valour' and saw no upside to opening up that can of worms again. Anyway, judging from the tidbits I perused, I think it's going to be a hard book for Hollies fans to put down, once you've began. Amazon release date is September 17th for those so interested. Now if we could only get some other Hollies to put pen to paper. It would be fascinating to compare viewpoints, I'm sure!
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Post by stuball on Sept 19, 2013 16:01:48 GMT
A scathing review of 'Wild Tales' from Jim Farber in the New York Daily News, although he does give full marks to Nash's chapters on The Hollies:
Nash's book suffers from a far simpler problem: It's late to its own party. The stories of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young have already been told, exhaustively, in a book by Neil Young, two by David Crosby, and three on Laurel Canyon, including part of David Browne's excellent work, "Fire and Rain."
While it's great to read the first third of Nash's book, which centres on his time with his underreported band the Hollies, by the time he gets to 1969, we know every story. It doesn't help that Nash hasn't made much music of worth since the early '70's. Neither does it elevate matters that he is being sadly accurate when he describes himself as "a simple man."
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Post by cameron on Sept 22, 2013 19:36:18 GMT
Wild Tales only came out here on Friday, but I've already read half of the book. I'm roughly at the point where Neil Young joins CSN, so I've covered off the Hollies years pretty much. I agree with the New York Daily News review to a point. I'd have loved a bit more depth about the Hollies' career (particularly around 1966 onwards) as Graham goes into a lot of depth about CSN's first album in particular; to the point of naming the make of microphone they used as a vocal mic! It would have been nice to have a few more anecdotes from Hollies sessions and tours. Just talk to Bobby Elliott and he'll tell you hundreds of little hilarious stories that will really make you smile. Graham still manages to paint a picture of the Hollies being "boring" and "faceless".
But I am really enjoying reading it - a bit too much information about the sex side of things. I don't think people are really that bothered to hear about it. Plenty of interesting stories, a few good laughs and it's just a really entertaining read. If you haven't got it yet, make sure you get it soon! You'll enjoy it!
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Post by roots66 on Oct 2, 2013 12:17:16 GMT
Two of the better interviews I've seen/heard among the "Wild Tales" media blitz. (I've read quite a few as well, but that'd be a lot of linkage.)
PBS Newshour
Howard Stern Show (he does tell the Brian Jones acid trip story here)
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Post by Stranger on Nov 1, 2013 21:12:17 GMT
Finally picked up the book and have read as far as Nash's departure from the Hollies. Pretty interesting read in general, it has given me a different perspective on his split. Great story about Tony's "fight" too!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 6:47:29 GMT
Without giving too much away (I will buy the book myself eventually), does he mention The Hollies reunion(s) and The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
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