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Post by allanclarke on May 21, 2019 22:41:45 GMT
I read the song Baby come back was a hit (#22) in Germany but i can‘t find any reliable sources. Do you know something about that? Any thoughts on this song?
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Post by gee on May 22, 2019 13:24:37 GMT
I have it listed as only reaching No.46 in Germany per the booklet to the Dutch Singles 2CD compilation BR Music 72438 8 33282 22 from 1996
If you have any further info re any higher German chart placing please advise
Baby Come Back - was recorded at Abbey Road on 21 April 1989 for the German only WEA single WEA 246 787-7 seven inch single version plus WEA 246 786-0 twelve inch single extended version, there was also a CD single version of each 246 766-2
written by Holger-Julian Cope (who probably sang harmony vocal and the brief featured vocal part on the recording) with Hanno Harders and Mary S Applegate
the song was cut it appears for use in a cat food TV commercial shown on German TV ('Hollies Sing Whiskers' ?) - possibly more to it but a cat does star in the promo !
- where the 'star' Cat got more attention than The Hollies per Bobby Elliott when they filmed the promo video.....
re the song while a not unpleasant piece at core production wise to me it's a prime piece of forgettable Euro pappy pop dominated by 'tinny' keyboards and what sounds like drum programming...then when Hicks guitar promisingly "fires up'' for a moment of magic...it's immediately superceeded by you guessed it yet more 'tinny' keyboards !
sorry if you like it just my view
what George Harrison described as 'clatter' music so dominant in that era
only the vocals really stand out thanks to Clarke, I guess it is a period piece re the 80's with a Stock-Aitken-Waterman feel to it...
I was told that it caused a bit of embarressment to them when a fan presented the picture sleeve single for an autograph as apparently neither Alan Coates or Ray Stiles knew about them even recording it....oops !
not sure of the details there but that is what I was told - significent that only Allan, Tony and Bobby...PLUS presumably Holger are pictured on the sleeve !
enjoy
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Post by gee on May 22, 2019 13:34:23 GMT
Looks like nobody even told Bobby Elliott about this version of BCB !
stripped of the 'Tinny' keyboardy 80's style production and given a full guitar solo plus featured guitars backing and proper drums - and with Alan Coates on high harmony vocal and featured vocal part - this song might have sounded better
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Post by gee on May 22, 2019 13:42:15 GMT
and if you still haven't had enough here is a third version WITH Bobby Elliott but who is the (presumably German) bass player here ?
note Tony has a vocal spot at the conclusion too
maybe we should enter this for next years Eurovision song contest ? (it's that type of Euro poppy thing and we couldn't do any worse than of late forever coming last !)
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Post by allanclarke on May 22, 2019 14:56:55 GMT
I have it listed as only reaching No.46 in Germany per the booklet to the Dutch Singles 2CD compilation BR Music 72438 8 33282 22 from 1996 If you have any further info re any higher German chart placing please advise Baby Come Back - was recorded at Abbey Road on 21 April 1989 for the German only WEA single WEA 246 787-7 seven inch single version plus WEA 246 786-0 twelve inch single extended version, there was also a CD single version of each 246 766-2 written by Holger-Julian Cope (who probably sang harmony vocal and the brief featured vocal part on the recording) with Hanno Harders and Mary S Applegate the song was cut it appears for use in a cat food TV commercial shown on German TV ('Hollies Sing Whiskers' ?) - possibly more to it but a cat does star in the promo ! - where the 'star' Cat got more attention than The Hollies per Bobby Elliott when they filmed the promo video..... re the song while a not unpleasant piece at core production wise to me it's a prime piece of forgettable Euro pappy pop dominated by 'tinny' keyboards and what sounds like drum programming...then when Hicks guitar promisingly "fires up'' for a moment of magic...it's immediately superceeded by you guessed it yet more 'tinny' keyboards ! sorry if you like it just my view what George Harrison described as 'clatter' music so dominant in that era only the vocals really stand out thanks to Clarke, I guess it is a period piece re the 80's with a Stock-Aitken-Waterman feel to it... I was told that it caused a bit of embarressment to them when a fan presented the picture sleeve single for an autograph as apparently neither Alan Coates or Ray Stiles knew about them even recording it....oops ! not sure of the details there but that is what I was told - significent that only Allan, Tony and Bobby...PLUS presumably Holger are pictured on the sleeve ! enjoy
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Post by allanclarke on May 22, 2019 15:01:32 GMT
I have it listed as only reaching No.46 in Germany per the booklet to the Dutch Singles 2CD compilation BR Music 72438 8 33282 22 from 1996 If you have any further info re any higher German chart placing please advise Baby Come Back - was recorded at Abbey Road on 21 April 1989 for the German only WEA single WEA 246 787-7 seven inch single version plus WEA 246 786-0 twelve inch single extended version, there was also a CD single version of each 246 766-2 written by Holger-Julian Cope (who probably sang harmony vocal and the brief featured vocal part on the recording) with Hanno Harders and Mary S Applegate the song was cut it appears for use in a cat food TV commercial shown on German TV ('Hollies Sing Whiskers' ?) - possibly more to it but a cat does star in the promo ! - where the 'star' Cat got more attention than The Hollies per Bobby Elliott when they filmed the promo video..... re the song while a not unpleasant piece at core production wise to me it's a prime piece of forgettable Euro pappy pop dominated by 'tinny' keyboards and what sounds like drum programming...then when Hicks guitar promisingly "fires up'' for a moment of magic...it's immediately superceeded by you guessed it yet more 'tinny' keyboards ! sorry if you like it just my view what George Harrison described as 'clatter' music so dominant in that era only the vocals really stand out thanks to Clarke, I guess it is a period piece re the 80's with a Stock-Aitken-Waterman feel to it... I was told that it caused a bit of embarressment to them when a fan presented the picture sleeve single for an autograph as apparently neither Alan Coates or Ray Stiles knew about them even recording it....oops ! not sure of the details there but that is what I was told - significent that only Allan, Tony and Bobby...PLUS presumably Holger are pictured on the sleeve ! enjoy I‘m not a big fan of this song but the english Wiki (Discography Singles) says it was Nr 22. So together with the Stand by me chart entry in Germany Not long before that this is a little „Comeback“ in Germany i.m.o
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Post by johnt on May 23, 2019 13:24:42 GMT
Surely the follow-up to this should have been "You've Lost That Lovin' Feline" ?!?
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Post by moorlock2003 on May 24, 2019 19:11:06 GMT
This makes everything from What Goes Around sound brilliant. They were trying too hard to get another hit with weak material like "This is It", "Too many Hearts get broken", "Find me a family" and "Hard to forget" (an ironic title as it was instantly forgettable). The Hollies were not at their best in the 80s but at least early on they had a few good ones especially "Take my love and run". I heard a DJ on New York radio say that he preferred their version of "Stop in the name of Love" to The Supremes original, and I do too.
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Post by knut on May 24, 2019 19:55:03 GMT
It is all about finding the right song and not try too hard sounding like the last craze
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Post by moorlock2003 on May 24, 2019 22:21:11 GMT
Unfortunately they were forever caught up in the "we gotta get a record in the chart" mind set. Insipid ballads didn't do the trick. Had they remained a Rock & Roll band, and done more upbeat things such as "Laughter turns to tears" maybe they could have found a younger audience again, but as it was only the old fans remained and were losing them as well with new 80s sounds that nobody from the 60s liked.
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Post by anthony on May 24, 2019 22:23:38 GMT
I didn't mind the song Baby come back, its a bit of fun, anytime the Hollies spent recording material in that era was great. Sadly they really recorded little after what goes around. Think the band got cold feet after that Album got slammed. Thought the Hollies recorded some brilliant songs like your eyes, The beautiful Find me a family, thank goodness we have the coconut collection. Just a real shame they didn't do anymore albums with Clarke. Funny you take out the shocking re make of Just one look out of the What goes around and its a very good album.
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Post by gee on May 26, 2019 15:55:12 GMT
I disagree re Find Me A Family which was not weak material at all
- a perfectly decent Allan Clarke - Gary Benson song with a fine Allan Clarke lead vocal it has quite wonderful strong tight vocal harmonies by Clarke-Hicks-Coates (see just what the current Hollies are so badly missing here re Alan Coates soaring high harmony voice perfectly blending with Clarke and Hicks to form one 'Hollies sound')
if ONLY Alan Coates had remained in the band when Peter Howarth came in, the vocal sound of the current Hollies could have been SO much stronger and more recognisable to longer term Hollies fans I feel sure
the 1989 EMI single featured real instruments too !
on the strength of basically just the TV show 'Find A Family' pushing it the single actually made no.79 in the UK charts, tho' not breaking into the top sixty it's considered a chart flop tho' clearly it was just 'bubbling under' despite The Hollies not appearing on any TV shows to plug it as far as I can remember and it needed some extra promotion that might have sent it further up the UK charts then , if it had got some more radio promotion (I never heard it on the radio only on the TV show as theme song) and had been available IN the record shops (as opposed to an order as HMV shop told me) it might have done better (?)
as it was it did just chart albeit short of the recognised UK chart positions
here is Tony Wilkinson's posting of it;
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Post by gee on May 26, 2019 16:16:28 GMT
and the 1998 remaster version with a longer fadeout....
you can really hear exactly 'who does what' vocally in the three part Clarke-Hicks-Coates vocal harmonies on this song
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Post by gee on May 26, 2019 16:32:51 GMT
Clarke-Hicks-Coates are superb here too
what idiot decided to edit off the glorious acapella vocal intro here on the twelve inch version from the seven inch single version.....?
the 'missing piece' of The Hollies recorded history is a compilation gathering together the studio recordings plus a few notable live tracks (the strongest featuring Alan Coates) over that period besides the WEA Nash tracks from 'Carrie' in 1981 up to the three studio tracks on that concert only twelve inch single from 1990
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Post by anthony on May 26, 2019 23:15:35 GMT
I'm with you Gee, Find Me A Family is a great song, Allan was sounding in top form, classic Hollies harmonies, song tells a great message, what's not to like. If this song was released by a boy band at the time it would have topped the charts, trouble I think the Hollies were considered a bit old hat and people weren't that keen on what they were doing. coconut collection is brilliant.
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Post by albatros on Jun 5, 2019 16:51:10 GMT
In the 80th we have in Germany 2 kind of charts - the top 50 and later the top 75 and now the top 100. Baby Come Back never made the normaly Charts. The Song only made the RADIO CHARTS here. Also the AIR PLAY CHARTS. Sorry, but no more. A nice tune specially made for CAT promo. Incl. a Germany male singer called Holger-Julian COPE. His voice sound a little bit like the one from JOHN LENNON. He also had Hits here in Germany - with the tune - LIKE ICE IN THE SUNSHINE.
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