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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 15, 2019 17:06:32 GMT
I can still remember The Hollies performing 'Another Night' on the Merv Griffin Show back in '75. They performed the tune in front of a old brick set, with a window allowing the neon light of the lonely city to shine through. Quite fitting and very impressive at the time. I believe 'Another Night' was the last Hollies group-written song to make the US Top 100. It peaked at #71, if memory serves. Merv also interviewed The Hollies for a minute or two after their numbers. Largely talked to Clarke, about the group never having a flop record. Also quizzed Sylvester about his accent. All done with the humour and smoothness that was typical of Merv's professionalism. Wow, you have a great memory stuball (I dig your name, by the way. When I went to the 1983 Tower Records autograph signing, before their concert, I asked Nash, "Will there be any surprises (in the set) tonight? How about "Stewball"? Nash said "It's a surprise we're here at all") . I remember Merv Griffin holding the album Another Night and reading off titles. .
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Post by anthony on Apr 15, 2019 22:09:11 GMT
NO WAY did Terry Sylvester sing a better version of LCW than Allan Clarke - that is absolute nonsense to try and pass off that idea !No body sang this song as well as Allan, Terry did Ok but lacked the feel Allan had for it. Its my favorite Hollies song. Brilliant Version, Allan Clarke at his best.
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Post by anthony on Apr 15, 2019 22:20:08 GMT
NO WAY did Terry Sylvester sing a better version of LCW than Allan Clarke - that is absolute nonsense to try and pass off that idea ! Gee, simma down now. It is MY opinion, and my opinion only. I never said Terry sings it better. I'm simply saying that I get more excited by The Hollies 1972 lineup than I do the others. When I watch the "In Concert" 5 song set, I sing along at the top of my lungs, perform air harmonica, but most of all, air drums to Bobby Elliot's incredible drumming. If I stand up, I perform air guitar. I am attached to this lineup because I was there in that auditorium, the Santa Monica civic, for the full length concert on Nov. 22, 1972. Unfortunately, it was the stone age back in 1972, and I had no knowledge of the taping of "In Concert". If I had, I would have been in the front row. The audience was super-enthusiastic, too. Clarke was not missed whatsoever. After viewing it, I am left pumped up and with the feeling that, with this sterling performance, The Hollies were better than ever. They were magnificent. The Hollies Rocked the house, with a capital R. you are right the Rikfors era was and always was the best, Allan who? It was not much more than a tribute band in that era, Bobby and Tony were the only ones there from the early 60's, much like this line up now. Funny they could not wait to get Allan back. Funny that. Love the way you love to be controversial Moorlock/Fred, gets me pumped up for the day. hey its only my opinion. The best song was Long Dark Road and Carrie Anne from Santa Monica. the rest I can take or leave. I will give you one thing Moorlock I think Won't you feel good that morning is a brilliant song, and one of the best opening songs to any Hollies Album.
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Post by Stranger on Apr 15, 2019 22:20:32 GMT
Does anyone think if they had got the big US "Another Night" push a year earlier for the "Hollies" album they would have done better? Did they even promote Air in the US?
If they'd really pushed in spring '74 they'd have had a current Top 10, which might have gone higher with some TV etc. and would have been closer to 2 big hits in Long Cool Woman and He Ain't Heavy. Surely 1974 was the moment to get some traction in the US as a touring group with a few big 70s hits + several '60s hits in the back catalogue.
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Post by anthony on Apr 15, 2019 22:33:11 GMT
Does anyone think if they had got the big US "Another Night" push a year earlier for the "Hollies" album they would have done better? Did they even promote Air in the US? If they'd really pushed in spring '74 they'd have had a current Top 10, which might have gone higher with some TV etc. and would have been closer to 2 big hits in Long Cool Woman and He Ain't Heavy. Surely 1974 was the moment to get some traction in the US as a touring group with a few big 70s hits + several '60s hits in the back catalogue. they sure did have a lot of hits from that era, Heavy, Air that I breathe and LCW, amazing they didn't hit even greater heights with these songs sadly
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Post by poco on Apr 15, 2019 22:50:58 GMT
No, They never promoted "The Air That I Breathe" here in the USA. I asked Calvert why they did no tour here in the US to promote it. He paused for a moment and said "I don't know why, I guess we were on tour else where." I have this interview on cassette.
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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 16, 2019 1:48:47 GMT
It all boils down to personal enjoyment of music. I never have a problem with anyone not liking something I like. It only leaves more for me to enjoy.
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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 16, 2019 2:04:17 GMT
Ironically for such a square band some of their early album tracks were real garage band proto punk stuff like I've Been Wrong. Doing a mini set of those in their later 70s shows should have shown what the band was really about and given them some cred! The matching suits in the late 60s and into the early 70s might appear square, but it was because of them being on British telly so often that they became the type of group mums and dads approved of. But by 1971 they moved away from that with rocking fare like "Hey Willy" and the Distant Light album.
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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 16, 2019 4:54:11 GMT
Gee, simma down now. It is MY opinion, and my opinion only. I never said Terry sings it better. I'm simply saying that I get more excited by The Hollies 1972 lineup than I do the others. When I watch the "In Concert" 5 song set, I sing along at the top of my lungs, perform air harmonica, but most of all, air drums to Bobby Elliot's incredible drumming. If I stand up, I perform air guitar. I am attached to this lineup because I was there in that auditorium, the Santa Monica civic, for the full length concert on Nov. 22, 1972. Unfortunately, it was the stone age back in 1972, and I had no knowledge of the taping of "In Concert". If I had, I would have been in the front row. The audience was super-enthusiastic, too. Clarke was not missed whatsoever. After viewing it, I am left pumped up and with the feeling that, with this sterling performance, The Hollies were better than ever. They were magnificent. The Hollies Rocked the house, with a capital R. you are right the Rikfors era was and always was the best, Allan who? It was not much more than a tribute band in that era, Bobby and Tony were the only ones there from the early 60's, much like this line up now. Funny they could not wait to get Allan back. Funny that. Love the way you love to be controversial Moorlock/Fred, gets me pumped up for the day. hey its only my opinion. The best song was Long Dark Road and Carrie Anne from Santa Monica. the rest I can take or leave. I will give you one thing Moorlock I think Won't you feel good that morning is a brilliant song, and one of the best opening songs to any Hollies Album.
[br Anthony you have an obsession with how many original members there are, and if that number is low, automatically call them a tribute band. A tribute band has zero original members. The final 3 songs on In Concert are incredible. Won't We Feel Good should have been the first single from Romany.
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Post by anthony on Apr 16, 2019 14:05:03 GMT
Hi Moorlock/Ray, Funny I really don't have a problem with the amount of original members a band has, gee I loved the 70's line up but if you feel this current line up is sub standard with two almost original members then what's the difference with the Rickfors years. Funny had a thought with the Santa Monica show, now if I'm correct they did 7 songs, I'm surprised that they didn't do any originals from that Rickfors era, Why would that be the case, you would think they would want to promote this current band, they did old Clarke numbers really. did they mention Allan, you didn't answer that. I just find you are very quick to knock anything this current line up does, when you are challenged about the comments you don't reply, I have two examples, If Peter Howarth is rubbish as you claim, who would you have replace him...Silence…. 2nd example the Hollies don't change their set list when they tour different counties, I gave examples....Silence. I like people who have different views, I like to debate the issues, in the end you are spot on its just opinions. Don't think its right being called sarcastic in the past like you called me, . I let that one go. Funny my obsession is with people having a balanced view and being able to debate others respectfully.
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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 16, 2019 15:21:43 GMT
I'm not out to debate anyone. I simply put my opinions and musical preferences out here. As for Howarth, he just doesn't cut it as a first rate lead singer. He's somewhere around third or fourth rate, not what is necessary to make the band anywhere near as good as it was before. I don't care for The Hollies to be presented that way.
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Post by moorlock2003 on Apr 16, 2019 15:29:53 GMT
Anthony, look up the word sarcastic and tell me if that sounds like you.
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Post by stuball on Apr 16, 2019 15:30:39 GMT
I can still remember The Hollies performing 'Another Night' on the Merv Griffin Show back in '75. They performed the tune in front of a old brick set, with a window allowing the neon light of the lonely city to shine through. Quite fitting and very impressive at the time. I believe 'Another Night' was the last Hollies group-written song to make the US Top 100. It peaked at #71, if memory serves. Merv also interviewed The Hollies for a minute or two after their numbers. Largely talked to Clarke, about the group never having a flop record. Also quizzed Sylvester about his accent. All done with the humour and smoothness that was typical of Merv's professionalism. Wow, you have a great memory stuball (I dig your name, by the way. When I went to the 1983 Tower Records autograph signing, before their concert, I asked Nash, "Will there be any surprises (in the set) tonight? How about "Stewball"? Nash said "It's a surprise we're here at all") . I remember Merv Griffin holding the album Another Night and reading off titles. . Yes Moorlock, I have been told before I have a great memory, although nowadays, in keeping with most people my age, I can barely recall last week! What a thrill for you to meet Graham Nash! I've seen the Nash-Hollies and Sylvester-Hollies in concert a few times, but never did I get backstage for any one-on-one. Well done you! A little more detail on the Merv Griffin appearance: when Merv posited to Allan that the group had never had a flop, Clarke replied, 'oh, we've had one or two." Merv responded by contrasting his own singing career. ' I only had one hit!', and broke into song with 'I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts!' It got a laugh out of the audience. Then, when Terry introduced himself, Merv was struck by his thick Liverpool accent. 'What's that called?' queried Griffin. 'Scouse!' replied Sylvester. That word meant nothing to Merv. It was probably 'Liverpudlian' he was searching for, which was the word always used over here during The Beatles reign. Then Merv moved on to the others introducing themselves. it would be great if someone could release highlights of 'The Merv Griffin Show'. But I would expect the legal entanglements and cost hurdles are prohibitive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 16:30:05 GMT
Not much has been released officially on 'The Mike Douglas Show' either, but there has been rebroadcasts. This doesn't seem to be the case with Merv Griffin.
Incidentally, I know of a 60s music fan who goes to a lot of concerts, and prefers the latter day live singers for The Hollies (Peter), The Searchers (Spencer), The Swinging Blue Jeans and The Fortunes, to name just 4, not caring that they didn't sing on the hits that made them famous. Each to their own of course...
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Post by Stranger on Apr 16, 2019 20:50:37 GMT
I think the Merv Griffin archive is distributed by Reelin' In The Years who put out the Hollies DVD a few years ago.
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Post by anthony on Apr 16, 2019 21:26:12 GMT
I'm not out to debate anyone. I simply put my opinions and musical preferences out here. As for Howarth, he just doesn't cut it as a first rate lead singer. He's somewhere around third or fourth rate, not what is necessary to make the band anywhere near as good as it was before. I don't care for The Hollies to be presented that way. so its hit and run stuff, thought that would be the case.
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Post by anthony on Apr 16, 2019 21:33:53 GMT
Anthony, look up the word sarcastic and tell me if that sounds like you. Thanks Fred, think that's your real name, you just like to be controversial, very insulting really, hit and run, can't debate in fear you are wrong. Anyway for harmony I will not make conversation with you again. You enjoy the Rickfors era.
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Post by stuball on Apr 17, 2019 14:04:17 GMT
Incidentally, I know of a 60s music fan who goes to a lot of concerts, and prefers the latter day live singers for The Hollies (Peter), The Searchers (Spencer), The Swinging Blue Jeans and The Fortunes, to name just 4, not caring that they didn't sing on the hits that made them famous. Each to their own of course... Yes Peter, I have friends that feel the same way. Personally, it's not for me, but to some '60's music fans, whatever group of imposters are hired to mimic the original group's hits, are just fine in their eyes. I suppose when it's the only game in town... Basically, it all boils down to whoever has the rights to the name. And as long as it's a viable money-spinning product, these '60's groups imitations will carry on, whatever their permutations. I'm happy to stick to the old records and videos and of course, my memories.
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Post by anthony on Apr 17, 2019 14:32:49 GMT
Incidentally, I know of a 60s music fan who goes to a lot of concerts, and prefers the latter day live singers for The Hollies (Peter), The Searchers (Spencer), The Swinging Blue Jeans and The Fortunes, to name just 4, not caring that they didn't sing on the hits that made them famous. Each to their own of course... Yes Peter, I have friends that feel the same way. Personally, it's not for me, but to some '60's music fans, whatever group of imposters are hired to mimic the original group's hits, are just fine in their eyes. I suppose when it's the only game in town... Basically, it all boils down to whoever has the rights to the name. And as long as it's a viable money-spinning product, these '60's groups imitations will carry on, whatever their permutations. I'm happy to stick to the old records and videos and of course, my memories. Hi Stuball, one of the very few groups that had all its original members at the end were the Seekers an Aussie group. An amazing effort. Sadly with the old 60's group Death, old age and being past it takes its toll. The great thing is so many wonderful old clips of these bands still survive. I remember Carl Wayne when he took over from Allan Clarke said in an ideal world groups would start together have a long career and die together. I think these groups still survive what ever the line up is because the audience is out there, its a nostalgic thing. This current Hollies line up always sells out on its trips to Australia, I think we just love hearing these songs live. One example is I'm 61, there is not much out their that I like these days. All my favourites are dead or disbanded. I'm like you, its hard to beat watching old clips of a favourite group.
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Post by stuball on Apr 17, 2019 16:18:05 GMT
Hello Anthony, yes, I've always thought very highly of The Seekers. They only had two hits over here that I can recall offhand: Georgy Girl, of course, and I'll Never Find Another You. Both great songs with super harmonies. And what a lead vocalist! Judith Durham I think her name was. Amazing voice!
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Post by gee on Apr 17, 2019 17:36:19 GMT
Question - what group had many UK hit singles on a EMI label in the sixties plus a big selling 'hits' compilation in the later sixties that topped the UK album chart then later briefly featured a blonde lead singer from Europe in place of the famous established lead singer for an album released on Polydor and a chart hit - then later the famous original lead singer returned to the band ?
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Post by Tony Wilkinson on Apr 17, 2019 18:20:47 GMT
Question - what group had many UK hit singles on a EMI label in the sixties plus a big selling 'hits' compilation in the later sixties that topped the UK album chart then later briefly featured a blonde lead singer from Europe in place of the famous established lead singer for an album released on Polydor and a chart hit - then later the famous original lead singer returned to the band ? Dunno, give us a clue.............lol
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Post by gee on Apr 17, 2019 18:36:37 GMT
The Seekers obviously - remember 'The Sparrow Song' ?
who were you thinking of.....?
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Post by anthony on Apr 17, 2019 22:13:08 GMT
Hello Anthony, yes, I've always thought very highly of The Seekers. They only had two hits over here that I can recall offhand: Georgy Girl, of course, and I'll Never Find Another You. Both great songs with super harmonies. And what a lead vocalist! Judith Durham I think her name was. Amazing voice! yes you are spot on, they had a string of hits here in Oz.
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Post by anthony on Apr 17, 2019 22:14:50 GMT
The Seekers obviously - remember 'The Sparrow Song' ? who were you thinking of.....? Love this song.
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