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Post by dirtyfaz on Sept 3, 2013 12:59:04 GMT
Anyone have this one? It has on it 2 concerts
the first concert was recorded in Split, Yugoslavia (now Croatia) in late 1968 &
The second concert was a specially staged concert from 1969 simply called Hollies In Concert, which was staged by the BBC.
Both these shows have circulated on youtube but are now on DVD.
What is it like quality wise?
It is approx 120 minutes long from a label called Music Products. No doubt a bootleg.
Another one with the similar title "In Performance 1968". This is due on Oct 1 from a company IMV Blueline.This is supposed to be 38 minutes long. The Amazon page for this release: "Recorded 1968 for the legendary Beat Club, this performance is a rarely seen document of rock classics from The Hollies."
Anyone know anything about this one?
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Post by roots66 on Sept 3, 2013 19:38:54 GMT
The cover illustration on this "'68 In Performance" thing sure makes it look like a boot to me. Perhaps some of it consists of clips that were supposed to be on this proposed 2011 release ("Hollies Lost Broadcasts," on Gonzo Multimedia) that never came out? www.amazon.com/dp/B004OTQSKE |
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Post by cameron on Sept 3, 2013 20:25:35 GMT
I was just about to post about this! The general "In Performance" DVD is okay. The Split concert is the same quality that it is on Youtube, the BBC special is marginally better than what's on Youtube. They've put some tacky '1968' and '1969' colour logos in the top left corner of each respective concert to hide the TV station icon. Certainly a bootleg. Worth having though as it's quite cheap.
I'm really intrigued about the "68 In Performance" DVD. It says it's a 38 minute special recorded for Beat Club. I've no record of the Hollies ever filming such a thing for Beat Club, only 'Jennifer Eccles', 'Blowin In The Wind', 'Listen To Me' and 'Do The Best You Can' for Beat Club in 1968. That's probably about 15 minutes of footage when all put together. It's quite an expensive DVD, which makes me think that it's maybe worth getting. The other bootleg DVD was only £5 when I got it, which is a standard price for a Bootleg DVD. I don't know if I can order this new DVD though as it's only advertised on American Amazon.
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Post by Gralto on Sept 9, 2013 14:49:42 GMT
The cover illustration on this "'68 In Performance" thing sure makes it look like a boot to me. Perhaps some of it consists of clips that were supposed to be on this proposed 2011 release ("Hollies Lost Broadcasts," on Gonzo Multimedia) that never came out? www.amazon.com/dp/B004OTQSKEYou may well be right on this one. I've copied and pasted the clip listing for The Lost Broadcasts and I reckon 38 minutes would be about right. The thing is, assuming the dates listed are 100% correct (which is unlikely), there are several clips with a big question mark over them. Track Listings 1. Listen To Me - Nov '68 2. Do The Best You Can - Sept '68
3. Sorry Suzanne - Mar '69
4. Jennifer Eccles - Mar '68
5. Blowing In The - Dec '68
6. Look Through Any Window - May '66
7. Sorry Suzanne - Mar '69
8. Sorry Suzanne - June '82 9. I Can't Let Go - May '66 10. Listen To Me - Nov '68 11. Do the Best You Can - Sept '68 12. Jennifer Eccles - April '68 13. Jennifer Eccles - Oct '75 14. Sorry Suzanne - Mar '77 15. Very Last Day - May '66 16. Carrie Anne - July '67 The bolded ones are likely from Beat Club including Carrie Anne, which will be the Peter Goldmann promo clip - this was first screened on Beat Club. Fairly certain this clip was filmed in colour but only survives in B&W - a real shame. The extra performances of Do The Best You Can and Listen To Me will hopefully be from Belgian? TV when the boys (looking very tired and disinterested it must be said) mimed on a boat while a group of dancers did their groovy thang. If so, would be great to finally get these performances in top quality. Neither was used on the official RITY Hollies DVD and are not commonly rescreened. Four different clips of Sorry Suzanne within only 16 selections - huh?? Dunno what the 70s and 80s performances could be if true. Ditto Jennifer Eccles from Oct 75. And...there is some suggestion The Hollies did a clip for 'Like Every Time Before' for Beat Club which was never used (and remains unseen/uncirculated). If this survives, this would be worth the cost of the disc alone, particularly as there are no other clips of this song. All in all, a very odd release - it remains to be seen though whether this is in fact the correct clip listing for this 'In Performance 68' DVD. Hopefully more info on this release shortly. |
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Post by cameron on Sept 9, 2013 17:37:08 GMT
Carrie Anne must have been shot in colour - the behind the scenes footage was in colour and featured in the King Midas In Reverse video on the RITY DVD. You can't tell from the camera used whether the film was colour or not though. If it was shot in colour and copies to black and white to send out to Europe, it could be re-colourised using the original film. Colour to monochrome copying locks in the details of the colours, and "colour reversal" can be performed, as has been done on recent long lost BBC finds that only survived in B&W. It seems to me that it would be in colour, why bother with all that psychedelic foolery (especially all the flashing lights on Bobby's scene) if it was only going to be B&W?
Anyway, I can't get my head around this release, it's come from nowhere. Apparently Beat Club did alternative takes and filmed the rehearsals - and in most cases kept the films. See how there's two versions of Listen To Me filmed in the same month here? Maybe the odd dates for Jennifer Eccles and Sorry Suzanne are the dates of the first broadcast of previously unseen clips and someone's dated them based on their release, not recording?
The Amazon description states that it is in colour and refers to it as a "performance". To me that implies that it's one long broadcast, perhaps the Hollies playing a selection of tracks from their "new" cancelled album, hence why it wasn't show on TV at the time as Nash left shortly after? I think that's wishful thinking though!
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Post by Stranger on Sept 9, 2013 20:07:35 GMT
And...there is some suggestion The Hollies did a clip for 'Like Every Time Before' for Beat Club which was never used (and remains unseen/uncirculated). If this survives, this would be worth the cost of the disc alone, particularly as there are no other clips of this song. Recorded on the 29th of August '68 apparently, is this possible? Beat Club were doing boxsets at one stage releasing all sorts from the archives but m not sure if they were released or what was released. |
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Post by Gralto on Sept 10, 2013 13:41:38 GMT
And...there is some suggestion The Hollies did a clip for 'Like Every Time Before' for Beat Club which was never used (and remains unseen/uncirculated). If this survives, this would be worth the cost of the disc alone, particularly as there are no other clips of this song. Recorded on the 29th of August '68 apparently, is this possible? Beat Club were doing boxsets at one stage releasing all sorts from the archives but m not sure if they were released or what was released. The Hollies first recorded Like Every Time Before at Abbey Road on 1 March 1966 at the end of a session (just one take but was complete with vocals) but this remains unreleased. It was then recorded again at Chappell Recording Studio in central London in mid May 1968 (possibly also on 3 July 1968 - TBC) and tape copies were made from the mono and stereo mixes on 5 July 1968. Soon after, the song crept out as the B-side in (West) Germany and Sweden to Do The Best You Can. The band is then believed to have taped clips in 29 August 1968 in Germany for TV Show Beat Club of both DTBYC and Like Every Time Before, though only the former was aired, on the 14 Sept 1968 ep. Historically, the Germans have been far better at retaining their televisual history than the UK, USA or down here in Oz, so fingers crossed, the unaired LETB clip still resides on a two inch quad tape somewhere. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2013 10:37:05 GMT
I have some of these other "Lost Broadcasts" discs and they are truly excellent. The DVD of The Move for example not only features unbroadcast songs, but the songs that were originally broadcast are also often a little longer and without fade-ins / fade-outs. I really hope we get one on The Hollies eventually.
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Post by Gralto on Jan 15, 2014 12:28:22 GMT
Can anyone fill us in with what happened to this disc? I dropped these guys a line soon after this thread started to ask for an update on a likely release date. The friendly chap at Gonzo got back to me very quickly and said "good question - let me check this out for you" and I never heard back.
I agree with you Cameron, I can't really get my head around the tracklisting for this release and would love some clarification on precisely what remains seen and unseen.
Has this production leaked out somewhere?
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Post by cameron on Jan 15, 2014 23:27:01 GMT
Simon, it turned out that this was nothing more than a repackage of the 1968 Croatia concert - the same copy with titles and voiceover that appears on Youtube and all bootlegs of the show. I'd love to see a better copy one day - Reelin In The Years has the tape - sadly the audio isn't so great as it was badly balanced originally and was recorded over something else with a poor/broken erase head on the original tape recorder as there's some high pitched interference that comes through the first two thirds of the recording.
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